Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Oh yeah, I brought a Bronco panzer 3A on EBAY.
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THINGS ABOUT 3' s (July 26th Update)
- Thread starter Brokeneagle
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Heavens Eagle
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Oh my Ian! You are really getting in with the Panzer III builds. I am curious about the Panzer 3A though. Quite different running gear with 5 road wheels instead of the 6 on later vehicles.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Oh Gee, not another one.
Pzr 3 G
April 1940 - Febuary 1941. 600 vehicles produced
(11 month overlap with the F prod./ 7 month overlap with the H prod.)
The G model recieved a number of changes from the F that makes this model different as a build and good for a collection display.
As with the F model a number of updates came though during production, as well as the Umbewaffnung program for the E,F & G (to backdate the earlier models with improvements from the H-J models).
I will endeavour to keep the G true to its unique aspects so that it stays as unique as possible.
Core G UPDATES -
The model - I want to model this one as a Pzr 3G (T) model, as the kit I purchased is this version and offers even more unique features for the build. The kit also has features that will force me to choose a more 'mid production' version but more on that later, once I get to the actual model kit. I have found some interesting references (one of which is below) showing some unique features. Another photo showed one of these with the canvas cover hurredly cut away from the mantlet attachment bracket, when it should be removed by undoing all the bolts. I find this to be an interesting detail to add to the model, creating the torn material from epoxy putty.
The Tauchpanzer was introduced during the G production run, designated (T) for 200 E and F models.
This specialised mod was tested in July 1940 for the invasion of England. When this did not come about the vehicles were assigned to Pzr Reg. 18 & 28 - renamed Pzr Brig. 18 and assigned to the 18. Pzr Div.in Jan 1941. An additional 105 vehicles were produced on the G and H chassis in 1941. All these vehicles had the rubber seal in the turret race removed but retained the deep wading capability with adjustable covers on the intakes at the sides of the engine deck. This variant also had the mufflers removed and replaced with extended curved exhaust pipes with non-return valves; the engine cooling outlets were also sealed. They also had cylindrical disc plates added to the side of the upper superstructure (next to the turret) to allow the turret to traverse and stay watertight with a rubber seal.
Basically these modifications were a precursor to the Deep wading capabilities introduced as standard on the later M series. These tanks were employed as regular tanks but [as in the case of crossing the Dnjeprin July 41) they could be employed to ford a river to break a stalemate before the rest of the armour could cross with a pontoon bridge or engineer's built wooden bridge.
* I really like this one from the 18. Panzer Division. It has the skinny track but is running the larger 95cm road wheels but still looks to have the 3.7cm gun. Lots of stowage too. You can see the double pipes at the back and the new cupola with a backfitted turret stowage bin.
I love the mounting of the spare wheels on the rear, as this was before the track guard mounting was introduced into production as a standard feature [with the H model].
In this image of a H model of a Tauchpanzer 3- you can see the spherical plate extending from the side of the superstructure below the turret side which allows the turret to stay sealed when traversing in the water.
Pzr 3 G
April 1940 - Febuary 1941. 600 vehicles produced
(11 month overlap with the F prod./ 7 month overlap with the H prod.)
The G model recieved a number of changes from the F that makes this model different as a build and good for a collection display.
As with the F model a number of updates came though during production, as well as the Umbewaffnung program for the E,F & G (to backdate the earlier models with improvements from the H-J models).
I will endeavour to keep the G true to its unique aspects so that it stays as unique as possible.
Core G UPDATES -
- Rear armour thickness increased from 20-30mm.
- Design of the centre cap on the lower rear plate changed to a round shape with 4 bolts.
- A Notek light was mounted on the left track guard next to the running light.
- A rectangular hole was cut into the left rear mudguard to accomodate the new convoy tail light.
- K.K.F.2 double periscope installed along with a new pivoting visor for the driver.
- New armoured cupola with independantly adjustable vision ports (mid production).
- Newly designed starter crank cover on the rear plate, now hinged at the top instead of the bottom.
- Turret ventilator fan introduced and the left side signal port deleted. (this mix had many variations so I will go with the mid production version).
- Re-armamnent from the 3.7cm to the 50cm/ L42 main gun( after about the first 50 vehicles).
The model - I want to model this one as a Pzr 3G (T) model, as the kit I purchased is this version and offers even more unique features for the build. The kit also has features that will force me to choose a more 'mid production' version but more on that later, once I get to the actual model kit. I have found some interesting references (one of which is below) showing some unique features. Another photo showed one of these with the canvas cover hurredly cut away from the mantlet attachment bracket, when it should be removed by undoing all the bolts. I find this to be an interesting detail to add to the model, creating the torn material from epoxy putty.
The Tauchpanzer was introduced during the G production run, designated (T) for 200 E and F models.
This specialised mod was tested in July 1940 for the invasion of England. When this did not come about the vehicles were assigned to Pzr Reg. 18 & 28 - renamed Pzr Brig. 18 and assigned to the 18. Pzr Div.in Jan 1941. An additional 105 vehicles were produced on the G and H chassis in 1941. All these vehicles had the rubber seal in the turret race removed but retained the deep wading capability with adjustable covers on the intakes at the sides of the engine deck. This variant also had the mufflers removed and replaced with extended curved exhaust pipes with non-return valves; the engine cooling outlets were also sealed. They also had cylindrical disc plates added to the side of the upper superstructure (next to the turret) to allow the turret to traverse and stay watertight with a rubber seal.
Basically these modifications were a precursor to the Deep wading capabilities introduced as standard on the later M series. These tanks were employed as regular tanks but [as in the case of crossing the Dnjeprin July 41) they could be employed to ford a river to break a stalemate before the rest of the armour could cross with a pontoon bridge or engineer's built wooden bridge.
* I really like this one from the 18. Panzer Division. It has the skinny track but is running the larger 95cm road wheels but still looks to have the 3.7cm gun. Lots of stowage too. You can see the double pipes at the back and the new cupola with a backfitted turret stowage bin.
I love the mounting of the spare wheels on the rear, as this was before the track guard mounting was introduced into production as a standard feature [with the H model].
In this image of a H model of a Tauchpanzer 3- you can see the spherical plate extending from the side of the superstructure below the turret side which allows the turret to stay sealed when traversing in the water.
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Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Hi Paul, thats right and the exhaust, mufflers and rear deck are different as well, which is why I 'caved' and bought one. I couldn't leave it out and not have the first version in the collection. The C is still probably not on the cards as it is not different enough to warrant another purchase(well thats what I am saying now
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
The H version
The H variant was introduced during the later stages of the G production run in October 1940 having overlap with this model and the next, as mentioned previously in the G post. Approximately 286 vehicles were produced until April 1941, seeing action in Russia and North Africa.
The H saw many changes introduced for improvements over previous models from experiences in Poland and France, specifically better armour and main Gun.
Changes/ upgrades
- the turret was redesigned with the rear buldge for the cuplola, being deleted and changed to a single rear plate
- the gun was upgraded to the new L42/50mm (new turret allowing the room)
- 30mm armour plate added to the Hulll front and rear as well as the front of the superstructure(armour plate sitting slightly above the roof plate)
- New 40cm wide tracks introduced with a new cast drive sprocket.
- new welded rear idler and 95mm road wheels made standard (to accomodate the added armour and new gun.
- Front return roller was moved forward to prevent track slapping on the fenders.
- An armoured cover was added to the smoke candle rack on the rear plate
- the first application of the armoured covers on the modified rear deck engine hatches for use in Tropical regions (ie. North Africa).
The Model
I haven't built my DML kit yet but when I do I will be making it a North African version. I am looking forward to this build as I have a number of extras that I can add as well as the model itself having pretty cool bolted on, added 30mm extra armour and other new parts (as explained above) from the previous models.
I will get to this one eventually but have already built some later versions that I will show first.
The H variant was introduced during the later stages of the G production run in October 1940 having overlap with this model and the next, as mentioned previously in the G post. Approximately 286 vehicles were produced until April 1941, seeing action in Russia and North Africa.
The H saw many changes introduced for improvements over previous models from experiences in Poland and France, specifically better armour and main Gun.
Changes/ upgrades
- the turret was redesigned with the rear buldge for the cuplola, being deleted and changed to a single rear plate
- the gun was upgraded to the new L42/50mm (new turret allowing the room)
- 30mm armour plate added to the Hulll front and rear as well as the front of the superstructure(armour plate sitting slightly above the roof plate)
- New 40cm wide tracks introduced with a new cast drive sprocket.
- new welded rear idler and 95mm road wheels made standard (to accomodate the added armour and new gun.
- Front return roller was moved forward to prevent track slapping on the fenders.
- An armoured cover was added to the smoke candle rack on the rear plate
- the first application of the armoured covers on the modified rear deck engine hatches for use in Tropical regions (ie. North Africa).
The Model
I haven't built my DML kit yet but when I do I will be making it a North African version. I am looking forward to this build as I have a number of extras that I can add as well as the model itself having pretty cool bolted on, added 30mm extra armour and other new parts (as explained above) from the previous models.
I will get to this one eventually but have already built some later versions that I will show first.
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I don't think Jerry Can armor is a wise thing.... 
So much info Ian, thank you for gathering this info!
So much info Ian, thank you for gathering this info!
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Yeah, it would have been a blow to their tank if they got hitI don't think Jerry Can armor is a wise thing....
So much info Ian, thank you for gathering this info!
.No problem on all the info as I am researching it anyway for the builds and I love posting about engineering changes etc.....it keeps me happy!
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
I thought the same but they don't have the white cross that depicts a water can.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
So, now I have arrived at a key point in the Mk3 production history, where the next model to come out, the J, was the most prolific and became the final platform (with only a few changes in small details for the M and N models), I will divert slightly.
During the J model production the Wermacht found themselves embroiled in their worst nightmare, Stalingrad, in late 1942. Hitler wanted a quick solution to the street fighting, with house to house combat stalling their normal 'Blitzkrieg success. The solution for quick building demolition was provided by the manufacturer Alkett - the sIGG 33.
sIGG 33 15CM
This special mobile 15cm Howitzer was provided on a Stug 3 F chassis which was basically a mix of details between the H, J and M features. The Stug 3 was steadily becoming the future of the Mk3 design, which was Less than 12 months away from being cancelled in favour of the tank destroyer. The sIGG 33 'sported' the typical features of the late Stug D-F8 chassis with late model drive and sprocket wheels and added bolt on armour but had the tools on the guards moved around to accomodate the large armoured box that accomodated the 15cm and crew.
The surviving vehicles(I think mostly from the second batch delivery of 12 because they did not get issued until after the encirclement) were redirected in April 1943 to a new unit Pz.Rgt.201 in the 23 Panzer division.
These all seemed to have been repainted in tri color cammo, while the 1942 pics seem to show a dark grey base but it gets hard to tell with winter cammo.
I do like this one though running the 'Winterketten' track. I will most probably model something similar to this.
Some other interesting aspects are that these vehicles were a real 'frankenstein mix of early 1941-2 Stug parts, Mk3 J parts and later model Mk3 M parts, which was due for imminent release within a few months. Always fun to model these kinds of projects.
The Model
I got a good deal on an old DMl kit and grabbed this rather than one of the updated smart kits. These kits have become so expensive that I am tending to steer away at twice the price now than they were when I bought most of my original stash. Down here in OZ that spells $120.00 AUS.
So I knew this one was going to need more 'love' than usual but was confident as the base kit is a good solid, simple kit and I have plenty of spare parts from all my DML '2 in 1' Smart kits to handle it.
The Chassis is pretty good in this kit which includes the scolloping along the top for the later models and individual torsion bar axles(though a bit thick). The scalloping was left off the initial runs, as they were a direct purchase of the Gunze Sangyo Mk3 N kit from the 90's. The original also had molded axles on the chassis. They decided to upgrade some of the details but most of the kit is 'soft' in the details area compared to their later versions that came out in 2008 and beyond.
I had my spare parts from the later kits ready as well as a Bronco Stug 3D doner kit.
I replaced the shock absorbers with a spare set of the late model ones as the early kit versions were very 'soft' and very 'ordinary'. I lived with the swing arms, as they would be behind the wheels anyway. I needed to sand-off the mark for the escapre hatch as the sIGG 33 used the later simplified chassis that deleted these. I still need to check on whether the scalloping went as well - if so mud will solve that!
I used a doner front plate from my Bronco Stug 3(yellow) as it had much better detail and depicted the later version. The old DML kit piece was not nearly as good and depicted a slightly earlier variant that had the smaller hinges - I wanted detail. The same went for the added, bolt-on frontal armor. The later DML J kits always give you a spare Stug sprue which has this bolt on armor depicted in beautiful detail, so I adapted the newer front plate lower by using the original as a guide for the tow pintle cut-outs. The upper plate I kept original but cut off the bolts and transferred some from a spare late DML plate; the reason being the other detail present.
The Bronco kit is constructed differently so I needed to cut a strip from a doner Stug front plate and add this at the back. I had plenty of spares.
The lower plate was still coming up short and some weld bead detail was needed as well.
to be continued.......
During the J model production the Wermacht found themselves embroiled in their worst nightmare, Stalingrad, in late 1942. Hitler wanted a quick solution to the street fighting, with house to house combat stalling their normal 'Blitzkrieg success. The solution for quick building demolition was provided by the manufacturer Alkett - the sIGG 33.
sIGG 33 15CM
This special mobile 15cm Howitzer was provided on a Stug 3 F chassis which was basically a mix of details between the H, J and M features. The Stug 3 was steadily becoming the future of the Mk3 design, which was Less than 12 months away from being cancelled in favour of the tank destroyer. The sIGG 33 'sported' the typical features of the late Stug D-F8 chassis with late model drive and sprocket wheels and added bolt on armour but had the tools on the guards moved around to accomodate the large armoured box that accomodated the 15cm and crew.
The surviving vehicles(I think mostly from the second batch delivery of 12 because they did not get issued until after the encirclement) were redirected in April 1943 to a new unit Pz.Rgt.201 in the 23 Panzer division.
These all seemed to have been repainted in tri color cammo, while the 1942 pics seem to show a dark grey base but it gets hard to tell with winter cammo.
I do like this one though running the 'Winterketten' track. I will most probably model something similar to this.
Some other interesting aspects are that these vehicles were a real 'frankenstein mix of early 1941-2 Stug parts, Mk3 J parts and later model Mk3 M parts, which was due for imminent release within a few months. Always fun to model these kinds of projects.
The Model
I got a good deal on an old DMl kit and grabbed this rather than one of the updated smart kits. These kits have become so expensive that I am tending to steer away at twice the price now than they were when I bought most of my original stash. Down here in OZ that spells $120.00 AUS.
So I knew this one was going to need more 'love' than usual but was confident as the base kit is a good solid, simple kit and I have plenty of spare parts from all my DML '2 in 1' Smart kits to handle it.
The Chassis is pretty good in this kit which includes the scolloping along the top for the later models and individual torsion bar axles(though a bit thick). The scalloping was left off the initial runs, as they were a direct purchase of the Gunze Sangyo Mk3 N kit from the 90's. The original also had molded axles on the chassis. They decided to upgrade some of the details but most of the kit is 'soft' in the details area compared to their later versions that came out in 2008 and beyond.
I had my spare parts from the later kits ready as well as a Bronco Stug 3D doner kit.
I replaced the shock absorbers with a spare set of the late model ones as the early kit versions were very 'soft' and very 'ordinary'. I lived with the swing arms, as they would be behind the wheels anyway. I needed to sand-off the mark for the escapre hatch as the sIGG 33 used the later simplified chassis that deleted these. I still need to check on whether the scalloping went as well - if so mud will solve that!
I used a doner front plate from my Bronco Stug 3(yellow) as it had much better detail and depicted the later version. The old DML kit piece was not nearly as good and depicted a slightly earlier variant that had the smaller hinges - I wanted detail. The same went for the added, bolt-on frontal armor. The later DML J kits always give you a spare Stug sprue which has this bolt on armor depicted in beautiful detail, so I adapted the newer front plate lower by using the original as a guide for the tow pintle cut-outs. The upper plate I kept original but cut off the bolts and transferred some from a spare late DML plate; the reason being the other detail present.
The Bronco kit is constructed differently so I needed to cut a strip from a doner Stug front plate and add this at the back. I had plenty of spares.
The lower plate was still coming up short and some weld bead detail was needed as well.
to be continued.......
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Looks like you're having some fun Ian! 
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Mike and MP - thanks for following. I really am having fun with this post, for sure.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
sIGG 33 15CM.....continued
Ok, back again with more progress. Our last pic had the front plates and bolts added....
I finished modifying the fit of the hatch section and the front armoured plate, I extended the plastic sheet but still need to do some putty work to hide the line. The seam was added to the rear of the top front plate by using a small soft lead wire and adding a weld bead to it. There was a large gap though between the Bronco plate angle(yellow) and the original DML hull, mailnly due to the modifying I had to do to accomodate the new parts, Easily fixed though as most of this will be hidden behin the fender plates that I will add from my late model J parts.
I still need to do a little more work on the closer end of the weld bead.
I then completed the engine deck cooling covers with some nicley detailed spares from my J parts as well as the PE screens (which were much better than the earlier ones)
The rear plate still needs the location trenches for the smoke rack to be filled in though, but you can see the yellow early triangular housing cover that I got from the Bronco stug. Again much better than the early DML one. The rear plate and exhust mufflers were also upgraded with spares.
The guards were replaced with spare J versions but I still needed to use the original mounting bars due to the way the earlier kit uses them to hold the track guards on to the hull - more mods needed.
The newer track guards have better detail all over - the guard in the image below on the right is the original track guard. Not bad but I had spares of the newer versions so why not!
Finally some work was started on the boxing crew cab and first off I added the wire that should be around the back of the top plate observation cover(to stop grenades lobbed in from behind. I made these from stretched sprue. I am also replacing the plastic block ariel mount with a corrected PE bent metal one made from PE offcuts(sitting on top - I still need to cut the block from the rear of the cab.
The lifting hooks on each corner of the cab are late model upgrades as well.
Ok, back again with more progress. Our last pic had the front plates and bolts added....
I finished modifying the fit of the hatch section and the front armoured plate, I extended the plastic sheet but still need to do some putty work to hide the line. The seam was added to the rear of the top front plate by using a small soft lead wire and adding a weld bead to it. There was a large gap though between the Bronco plate angle(yellow) and the original DML hull, mailnly due to the modifying I had to do to accomodate the new parts, Easily fixed though as most of this will be hidden behin the fender plates that I will add from my late model J parts.
I still need to do a little more work on the closer end of the weld bead.
I then completed the engine deck cooling covers with some nicley detailed spares from my J parts as well as the PE screens (which were much better than the earlier ones)
The rear plate still needs the location trenches for the smoke rack to be filled in though, but you can see the yellow early triangular housing cover that I got from the Bronco stug. Again much better than the early DML one. The rear plate and exhust mufflers were also upgraded with spares.
The guards were replaced with spare J versions but I still needed to use the original mounting bars due to the way the earlier kit uses them to hold the track guards on to the hull - more mods needed.
The newer track guards have better detail all over - the guard in the image below on the right is the original track guard. Not bad but I had spares of the newer versions so why not!
Finally some work was started on the boxing crew cab and first off I added the wire that should be around the back of the top plate observation cover(to stop grenades lobbed in from behind. I made these from stretched sprue. I am also replacing the plastic block ariel mount with a corrected PE bent metal one made from PE offcuts(sitting on top - I still need to cut the block from the rear of the cab.
The lifting hooks on each corner of the cab are late model upgrades as well.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Thanks Mike.......I have started my Pzr 3A so that will be up next. Going full 'prequil' (as in Star Wars style) from here.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
sIGG 33 15CM.....continued
A little more progress:
another shot of the sprue used for wire guard.
I have started applying the dried dirt to the underneath of the guards.
The mud has also been added to the rest of the hull using a water down mix of the Tamiya ground effects, which I really love. I added the track guard holders as well using white plastic rod mounted on the scavenged spare mounting plates from my spares. These actually also helped cover most of the gap too.
Spare track holding bar added from my spares also.
The plate exstension still needs to be filled and sanded but this may mean I have to cut off the bolt heads again and refit them afterwards.
Also completed filling in the rear plate trenches for the deleted smoke candle rack.
Obviously from the shots the return rollers have been added.
I have finished one of the rear stowage boxes with some added struts that should be there according to Panzertracts.
The Kit only provides one box but has the mounts for another. 2 could be fitted and often were as below....
As a final addition I 'scavenged the 'Winterketten from the Su76i kit (I have some Fruil track that I can use with that) and it looks as good as their other individual link from their later kits). Sadly the latest releases don't include the individual link but just give you their plastic DS track (but still charge more than before).
A little more progress:
another shot of the sprue used for wire guard.
The mud has also been added to the rest of the hull using a water down mix of the Tamiya ground effects, which I really love. I added the track guard holders as well using white plastic rod mounted on the scavenged spare mounting plates from my spares. These actually also helped cover most of the gap too.
Spare track holding bar added from my spares also.
The plate exstension still needs to be filled and sanded but this may mean I have to cut off the bolt heads again and refit them afterwards.
Also completed filling in the rear plate trenches for the deleted smoke candle rack.
Obviously from the shots the return rollers have been added.
I have finished one of the rear stowage boxes with some added struts that should be there according to Panzertracts.
The Kit only provides one box but has the mounts for another. 2 could be fitted and often were as below....
As a final addition I 'scavenged the 'Winterketten from the Su76i kit (I have some Fruil track that I can use with that) and it looks as good as their other individual link from their later kits). Sadly the latest releases don't include the individual link but just give you their plastic DS track (but still charge more than before).
Sherman 18
Master at Arms
Enjoying your work!
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
SiGG 33 Update.
Basically its finished except for some wingnuts. I can't attach the armoured fighting box or the guards until the tracks are painted and fixed in place. painting is not going to be done just yet.
I glued the bottom lengths of track and attached them to the wheels but did not attach the wheels to the axles.
Next I built and attached the front section around the drive sprockets, then the top length and completed the rear section but did not glue it to the idler so that I could remove wheels and track as a unit for painting. I replaced the kits Drive sprockets with a later produced Dragon spare and a Tamiya spare from and old L kit.
I also finished off the armoured panel and closed over the line for the added panel from the last post. It comes up still in the photo at Macro but when looking with your eye its doesn't show and will be covered up mostly by the spare track.
The SiGG 33 had the bracing and mounts for an extra box so I used one of my Mig Mk3 stowage boxes I have had sitting around for 10 years or so. It still needs to be attached once I have painted the deck underneath.
next up was the fighting compartment completion. I replaced the solid antenna molding with a more accurate one made with PE offcuts, plastic card and wire. Also added the inner hatch grab handle, latch and bolts on the outer side.
Track guards were also finished and headlight wire added using stretched sprue - like before I added as many late Dragon parts as I could 'dig -up'
Lastly added a lock to the middle of the rear box and its ready to start the painting process.
The last details to add are the tow pintle pins as well as the travel lock for the main gun and front guard brass braces.
Onto the J's............
Basically its finished except for some wingnuts. I can't attach the armoured fighting box or the guards until the tracks are painted and fixed in place. painting is not going to be done just yet.
I glued the bottom lengths of track and attached them to the wheels but did not attach the wheels to the axles.
Next I built and attached the front section around the drive sprockets, then the top length and completed the rear section but did not glue it to the idler so that I could remove wheels and track as a unit for painting. I replaced the kits Drive sprockets with a later produced Dragon spare and a Tamiya spare from and old L kit.
I also finished off the armoured panel and closed over the line for the added panel from the last post. It comes up still in the photo at Macro but when looking with your eye its doesn't show and will be covered up mostly by the spare track.
The SiGG 33 had the bracing and mounts for an extra box so I used one of my Mig Mk3 stowage boxes I have had sitting around for 10 years or so. It still needs to be attached once I have painted the deck underneath.
next up was the fighting compartment completion. I replaced the solid antenna molding with a more accurate one made with PE offcuts, plastic card and wire. Also added the inner hatch grab handle, latch and bolts on the outer side.
Track guards were also finished and headlight wire added using stretched sprue - like before I added as many late Dragon parts as I could 'dig -up'
Lastly added a lock to the middle of the rear box and its ready to start the painting process.
The last details to add are the tow pintle pins as well as the travel lock for the main gun and front guard brass braces.
Onto the J's............
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