Revell FW-190- A8 "Sturmbock" 1/32

[Heavens Eagle]

I got ya Paddy. These are from the official Monogram paint guide for German aircraft. These are from scanned sheets but give a good rendition.

The colors on the paint chips are resonably close so go for it. If anything they would be worn and faded a bit. Things to remember is that the aircraft paint early in the war was really good. I can't think of any photos I have seen where the paint was worn through or chipped like on American aircraft. Filthy, grungy, and dirty they very much were, and I am sure there were some worn spots, but NOT heavily chipped.

 

[Heavens Eagle]

This was my A-8 R11 night fighter. It used a similar paint coloring.

 

[paddy]

I am becoming rather obsessed by German camouflage now , i find this sort of thing more intresting than actually building the models.

I just wish i was a better painter

 

[paddy]

A bit of work on the pit and cockpit sides

I think i will cut open another panel on one side at the front as a lot of the engine mount detail and ammo boxes will never be seen if i dont ?
cut about here maybe ?

and one for Saul. I added this bottle but it has no plumbing in the instructions so i dont know what it is or where to run the pipes ?

I went with the PE in the end but TBH i think the 3D would have been just as good, i might try and flat coat the PE, i dont like the semi gloss ink they use.

 

[moon puppy]

These are from the official Monogram paint guide for German aircraft.

I got to find my copy, it's around here somewhere.

 

[Rhino]

Shes looking very much like the Luftwaffe's Arbeitungspferd, Ja?

 

[Heavens Eagle]

I got to find my copy, it's around here somewhere.

I have my paper copy in the notebook, but also have a PDF file one that someone scanned that works for quick looks. It looks pretty close to the same though the pdf one is a bit on the worn and frumpy side.

 

[paddy]

I decided to open the panel that would cover the ammo boxes. Not sure if it was a good idea at this stage but i have made a mock up replacement panel as the bit i cut out was not usable, way too thick and with no detail inside obviously. Not really sure what the inside of this panbel would look like so i have roughly based it on the resin panels from Eduard for the engine covers. With 3 staggered flaps.

If i can find a picture of the inside of the panel and it withing my capability i will make a better one.

 

[moon puppy]

 

[Brokeneagle]

Those last 3 color war photos look to be colored post war, so I wouldn't rely on the color too much.
I thought you may like these for some reference.

 

[Piet]

I am becoming rather obsessed by German camouflage now , i find this sort of thing more intresting than actually building the models.

Focke-Wulf Fw 190A and F series photo gallery

Asisbiz article about Focke-Wulf Fw 190A and F series photo gallery

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[moon puppy]

@paddy I listened to "The Big Show" per your recommendation, Pierre Clostermann mentions that their training prepared them for combat but he was surprised how colorful the German planes were. Looks like you've got bit by it also.

 

[paddy]

In my day we had these things called books where you had to read each word, sounds like you found something better

 

[moon puppy]

In my day we had these things called books where you had to read each word, sounds like you found something better

Modeling and listening to great books, what can be better?

 

[paddy]

I made a bit of a cock up with this build as i bought and started to fit the Eduard machine guns that sit behind the engine then realised the Sturmbock didnt have these I also cut the fuselage to show the guns and ammo boxes......which it doesnt have
anyway as luck would have it i was talking to my mate in the model shop in town today and he has this model in stock but it suffered flood damage from a leaking roof ...some of you might recall i posted some pictures of his shop a while back and its 400 years old so the roof is entitled to leak
The flood damage means no box . instructions or Decals but no worries i got all those so 2 steps back and 1 forward. Bonus is i get to build it correct and i get another spare engine....

Update once i have got back on track.

 

[Heavens Eagle]

Nothing wrong with getting a needed Overtree kit and helping out the shopkeeper at the same time.

 

[paddy]

This is a picture of the A8 in the heritage hanger USA, a 1944 example. Note the RHS instrument console which is all but empty

and another

and this is the 3D and PE example

its hard to see these as the same panels as the actual machines above ?


This is a picture of the Eduard gun platform back to back with the Revell one.

The bottom kit part fits like a glove, the much narrower Eduard part doesnt . you would need to narrow the cockpit floor to allow the fuselage sides to move in to match the Eduard part. I'm not moaning there are many examples of people making this fit on the web so it can be done.
I do wonder if to "detail up", you have to "accuracy down" by chopping correct parts to fit incorrect parts, whether its worth while ?

 

[paddy]

So what i have done is remove the cockpit and fitted the Eduard gun platform

this now fits. I have taken about1mm off the width of the cockpit floor and re fitted it

This looks like a fix but it will inevitably cause problems down the line, possibility of canopy/screen being too wide, wing fit/gap at wing root and this for starters

The fire wall needs to be narrowed to fit the slightly narrower cockpit EDIT...you cant narrow this part because it will remove the top engine mounts position so you will need to thin the fuselage sides....oh great

Anyway i am having fun and thats what its all about but i haven't forgotten this is supposed to be me doing things properly
as for the model ? well its going to be a Sturmbock with centre line guns.

I do wonder if Revell have actually made a mistake by omitting these guns as i cant find any mention of this but i have found mention of a 3 type gun set up as below but Hasegowa dont fit these guns either to their Sturmbock.

Richard Franz commented:

When we made our attack, we approached from slightly above, then dived, opening fire with 13mm and 20mm guns to knock out the rear gunner and then, at about 150 metres, we tried to engage with the MK 108 30mm cannon, which was a formidable weapon. It could cut the wing off a B-17.

As far as i can see the 30mm canon was in the out wing position which is strange given its weight and recoil, each gun had about 50 rounds but one hit on a fighter could bring it down and four hits on a Fortress would be enough to finish it. Wing root was 20mm and centre line 13mm.

 

[paddy]

This looks better

 

[moon puppy]

Whip it Paddy! Devo style...don't know why that song is in my knoggin' this morning. Strange way to wake up.