Paulw
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It would be nice to see you again, Paul.
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Pocher Rolls Royce Phantom 1:8
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Heavens Eagle
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I have only been back once this year as my daughter and her hubby have been off with their friends over the holidays I could come back. It was a quick trip over labor day and we were pretty much taken the whole time. Thought about giving you a shout, but had a very old friend (his age and how long I have known him) that I absolutely had to swing by and visit. I had thought he had passed on like the others from his group that I had worked with for years and was so surprised, happy, and glad when I discovered on Farcebook (yeah it IS worthwhile once in a great while) that he was still in great health and still around. Stopped and visited with him for a couple of hours on the way out of town and I think he was happier to see me than I was him though I don't see how.
Steve Ski
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Paddy, you never cease to amaze me with your talent for detail. If anybody can pull this off, you got it. There certainly won't be too many boring days in retirement, that's for sure. Great work so far, Amigo, superb work.
I hate to admit this, but I really didn't want to retire, but they kicked us out the door at 57. The job was just too dang much fun, and the pay wasn't bad either. However, I was warned that the first two weeks were going to be rough, as in, you're wondering why you're not doing anything important and you can kinda feel guilty? But trust me, that goes away real quick, if you stay busy. And besides Paddy, you earned it!
Letting go of your business will take some time, my brother went through that too, the same thing, self-made man. He's better now, much better. lol.
Ruck On, this is looking really good from here.
P.S. The only thing that bites about retirement, there's no more paid holidays. Ya,........... that one was hard to get used to.
I hate to admit this, but I really didn't want to retire, but they kicked us out the door at 57. The job was just too dang much fun, and the pay wasn't bad either. However, I was warned that the first two weeks were going to be rough, as in, you're wondering why you're not doing anything important and you can kinda feel guilty? But trust me, that goes away real quick, if you stay busy. And besides Paddy, you earned it!
Letting go of your business will take some time, my brother went through that too, the same thing, self-made man. He's better now, much better. lol.
Ruck On, this is looking really good from here.
P.S. The only thing that bites about retirement, there's no more paid holidays. Ya,........... that one was hard to get used to.
paddy
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Slight change of plan.
I have decided to keep the business going, simply as an outlet for the remaining stock which otherwise i will be left with. I may be left with it anyway but at least i can discount it and try.
The UK tax year ends in April so only 3 months later than i planned to retire so thats my aim right now.
Still a lot to do including the restructuring of my website for a fire sale but i thought i would update the pocher
One of the real issues with this is its size bear in mind the door cards are leather covered like the seats i would need a minimum of 10 of these MFH packs to do the job if i didnt mess anything up
these are about £6.00 each inc shipping and tax from Spot Model in Spain. ( you can by them from Hiroboy in the UK for £10.00 each...lol fat chance)
So we are talking £60 for interior before i think about veneer
dash and carpets.....
anyway , long story short
This is complet (legless) goat skin. 0.6mm thick and cost just £32 so half the price
I confess i have absolutely no idea what i am doing though, even 0.6mm is a bit thick and as they never bred self adhesive goats over here its going to be difficult to work.....
I have decided to keep the business going, simply as an outlet for the remaining stock which otherwise i will be left with. I may be left with it anyway but at least i can discount it and try.
The UK tax year ends in April so only 3 months later than i planned to retire so thats my aim right now.
Still a lot to do including the restructuring of my website for a fire sale but i thought i would update the pocher
One of the real issues with this is its size bear in mind the door cards are leather covered like the seats i would need a minimum of 10 of these MFH packs to do the job if i didnt mess anything up
these are about £6.00 each inc shipping and tax from Spot Model in Spain. ( you can by them from Hiroboy in the UK for £10.00 each...lol fat chance)
So we are talking £60 for interior before i think about veneer
dash and carpets.....
anyway , long story short
This is complet (legless) goat skin. 0.6mm thick and cost just £32 so half the price
I confess i have absolutely no idea what i am doing though, even 0.6mm is a bit thick and as they never bred self adhesive goats over here its going to be difficult to work.....
Watching with interest...
paddy
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So as a break from trying to get my new website to work. I took a look at a Pocher door.
These had been built by the previous owner so the first step was to see if I could get them back to their component parts.
these dont look too bad in the pictures but nothing is painted, its just orange plastic,, screws are obvious and despite appearance in the pics they are pretty awful
I got them apart without too much damage
Initially i thought i would add a chrome trim with metal foil but i realised that it was going to look like metal foil so although i got as far as below, i scrapped that idea
I then chiselled the raised strip of plastic off the door and added a length of 1.5mm and 1mm alloy tube.
Note i have painted the top of the door in the exterior colour. I did try using a veneer but it didnt work, i then got some Burr Walnut decals and they were a bit of a disaster. The first sheet had not been sealed so the ink washed off when i soaked them. the second sheet was sealed but its strange paper. The decal once released in water, is like a thin electrical tape. ie: the decal stretches on a sort of elastic base..
it looks good but it stretches very easily and then when it dries it contracts into wrinkles and it melts at the sire of microsol
Anyway these were obviously printed on an inkjet and should have been laser printed so its stable. This is why i have painted the door cappings....
Handles were given a coat of chrome paint
one of the window winders snapped so i had to pin it with some brass rod then solder the joint, should be ok as i cant see me winding the windows up and down much
Anyway, long story short, here we are
the door cap is sprayed, centre is goat skin and the bottom is some dolls house self adhesive carpet A4 sheets at £1.00 a sheet cant go wrong..
outside is obviously body colour,. this thing is so big i couldn't afford to do this in Tamiya spray cans, it would need near a can a panel so this is propper automotive paint from the garage with an auto clear top coat that you can cut back , polish and wax. ( the specs are just dust )
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These had been built by the previous owner so the first step was to see if I could get them back to their component parts.
these dont look too bad in the pictures but nothing is painted, its just orange plastic,, screws are obvious and despite appearance in the pics they are pretty awful
I got them apart without too much damage
Initially i thought i would add a chrome trim with metal foil but i realised that it was going to look like metal foil
so although i got as far as below, i scrapped that ideaI then chiselled the raised strip of plastic off the door and added a length of 1.5mm and 1mm alloy tube.
Note i have painted the top of the door in the exterior colour. I did try using a veneer but it didnt work, i then got some Burr Walnut decals and they were a bit of a disaster. The first sheet had not been sealed so the ink washed off when i soaked them. the second sheet was sealed but its strange paper. The decal once released in water, is like a thin electrical tape. ie: the decal stretches on a sort of elastic base..
it looks good but it stretches very easily and then when it dries it contracts into wrinkles and it melts at the sire of microsol
Anyway these were obviously printed on an inkjet and should have been laser printed so its stable. This is why i have painted the door cappings....
Handles were given a coat of chrome paint
one of the window winders snapped so i had to pin it with some brass rod then solder the joint, should be ok as i cant see me winding the windows up and down much
Anyway, long story short, here we are
the door cap is sprayed, centre is goat skin and the bottom is some dolls house self adhesive carpet
A4 sheets at £1.00 a sheet cant go wrong..outside is obviously body colour,. this thing is so big i couldn't afford to do this in Tamiya spray cans, it would need near a can a panel so this is propper automotive paint from the garage with an auto clear top coat that you can cut back , polish and wax. ( the specs are just dust )
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Oh My! Nice work Paddy!!
Heavens Eagle
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Paddy I think there are ways to thin down leather from the back side if you find it to be too thick. That door is looking really good! Definitely much better than the first try by the other guy.
paddy
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Yea thanks Paul you can scrape the back with a sharp edge but actually at .6mm its the same thickness as the MHF imitation stuff and very useable as it is., even has a bit of stretch in it which is handy.
The problem is not these flat panels it will be covering the seats.
The problem is not these flat panels it will be covering the seats.
paddy
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Bit of advice...if you build one of these, build the 2 door coupe
what looks like a paint failure along the edges is just the LEDs in my light box reflecting ..
Next job is the seats
This is what i have
Yes well, what can i say
This would be so much easier if i was building it for the first time. not the second I have never done anything like this before and not sure how to do it now without a sewing machine TBH.
And this is the body floor ...
panic........
what looks like a paint failure along the edges is just the LEDs in my light box reflecting ..
Next job is the seats
This is what i have
Yes well, what can i say
This would be so much easier if i was building it for the first time. not the second
I have never done anything like this before and not sure how to do it now without a sewing machine TBH.And this is the body floor ...
I always thought these were fair representations of actual cars, the more you show us the more it looks like just really expensive toys.
paddy
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The truth Bob ?
They are rubbish ...Yes they have a following from some very well off diehards who spend a small fortune on upgrades, often more than the model itself so running into thousands £$ ..
In truth i cant wait to get this out the way and get on with some real model making. The temptation is to dump it or break it for parts and ebay them. its not what i want to do really, i bought it, as i explained here, to see what the fuss was about and why the silly prices. I am now none the wiser ?
If i could have a new pocher Alfa 8C 2300 for £100 or a new Italeri 8C 2300 for £100 i would choose the italeri yet the Pocher sells for 10x the price...work that out
They are rubbish ...Yes they have a following from some very well off diehards who spend a small fortune on upgrades, often more than the model itself so running into thousands £$ ..
In truth i cant wait to get this out the way and get on with some real model making. The temptation is to dump it or break it for parts and ebay them. its not what i want to do really, i bought it, as i explained here, to see what the fuss was about and why the silly prices. I am now none the wiser ?
If i could have a new pocher Alfa 8C 2300 for £100 or a new Italeri 8C 2300 for £100 i would choose the italeri yet the Pocher sells for 10x the price...work that out
paddy
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In fairness the Pocher is a product of the 60's and 70's so they are up to 60 years old. Take a real Car or TV or Phone, thats 60+ years old and it often doesnt stack up in the 21st century, but thats not really the problem, as Bob says, this is a toy car modelled on the real thing , its not a model of the real thing if you see what i mean..
paddy
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I have decided to take a break from this. I will continue it in retirement which was always the plan really.
I need to get my head round upholstery.... another monster under the bed is those wheels and what to do with them, again assembling from new is a whole different ball game from trying to fix someone else's poor attempts, especially when you have no spare parts if the worst happens when trying to break them down........... but i can feel my mojo slipping here so rather than flog i to death and junk it in frustration , i need to do something else and come back with a fresh attitude and enthusiasm at a later date.
as all the best dramas say
To be continued..................
I need to get my head round upholstery.... another monster under the bed is those wheels and what to do with them, again assembling from new is a whole different ball game from trying to fix someone else's poor attempts, especially when you have no spare parts if the worst happens when trying to break them down........... but i can feel my mojo slipping here so rather than flog i to death and junk it in frustration , i need to do something else and come back with a fresh attitude and enthusiasm at a later date.
as all the best dramas say
To be continued..................
paddy
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Don't be fooled , they are kits but 21st century kits. quite a different thing to the Pocher of old. We had a TV prog here all about Hornby when they were developing their Pocher Lotus 72. It was very interesting to see them at Lotus with a 3D scanner scanning the original car pre production
uk.pocher.com
The modern kits are pre painted, Die cast alloy and not the same thing at all compared with what i have.
HK114 Lotus 72D - 1972 British GP, Emerson Fittipaldi - 1:8 Scale Kit
HK114, Lotus 72D - 1972 British GP - Emerson Fittipaldi - 1:8 Scale Kit, Pocher, 1:8 Model Car Kits, 1:8
uk.pocher.com
The modern kits are pre painted, Die cast alloy and not the same thing at all compared with what i have.
