@Brokeneagle, stuffed envelope inbound, let me know when it arrives.
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1/35 Pzr 4/70 A STUFF update 18 August 2026
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Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Thanks Saul, looking forward to getting it. It will be the last detail to finish now before I can attach the upper structure.
By the way, @Brokeneagle, if you fancy doing the same thing you're planning, it turns out I can send the same exact envelope once more!
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Thanks mate, appreciate that.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Thanks Saul, but I don't quite understand what you mean. If I do the same scene again?
Looks like a sprocket wheel is missing! If another PzKpfw IV series also missing its sprocket, you'll need more...Thanks Saul, but I don't quite understand what you mean. If I do the same scene again?
Heavens Eagle
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Saúl, that SNL skit is absolutely disgusting. No wonder I have never watched it and it is going down the toilet hole.
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
Ugh! NO! It more resembles this:Agree, BUT it is a video of German SPROCKETS!
This is MORE better!
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Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Ok, so taking this post back on to the subject .................
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The model needed to be short-tracked and get some other special bits to achive the look I wanted so off we go.
Sorry I built through a lot of the initial progress without thinking to photograph.
The Kit
The dragon kit has a lot more detail than the previous Tamiya kit but in many sections it is over engineered, and doesn't achieve the level of enjoyable model making that the Tamiya kit does.
It does faithfully depict the details of a late model version and has a very nice addition of 2 sets of mounting rails for the Thoma shields - 1 with notches for the shields and another without, depicting the plain mounting bars as they appear in 'real life' without any shields mounted.
Some Extras
The extras should be fun and bring a bit more detailout of this kit bash modification.
The Build...........
Initially I just constructed the chassis and modified the bogies as per the ref photos . Some' wear and tear' was added to the rubber tyres and the track links constructed. I used the semi late model reurn rollers from the Tristar wheel kit to go with something a bit different from the previous early Tamiya build - the return roller can't be identified properly so why not!
I also added the TREX drive sprocket mount to model a little more detail and set the model to a time before the photo. There is some nice detail already on the chassis, underneath where the Drive Sprocket covers are mounted. I will detial these further on the left side as opposided to the cover still on the left side.
TREX Tow Hooks were added to the front plate as well as weld beads in the corners of the front plate, which were non existent on the kit.
The
.The model needed to be short-tracked and get some other special bits to achive the look I wanted so off we go.
Sorry I built through a lot of the initial progress without thinking to photograph.
The Kit
The dragon kit has a lot more detail than the previous Tamiya kit but in many sections it is over engineered, and doesn't achieve the level of enjoyable model making that the Tamiya kit does.
It does faithfully depict the details of a late model version and has a very nice addition of 2 sets of mounting rails for the Thoma shields - 1 with notches for the shields and another without, depicting the plain mounting bars as they appear in 'real life' without any shields mounted.
Some Extras
The extras should be fun and bring a bit more detailout of this kit bash modification.
The Build...........
Initially I just constructed the chassis and modified the bogies as per the ref photos . Some' wear and tear' was added to the rubber tyres and the track links constructed. I used the semi late model reurn rollers from the Tristar wheel kit to go with something a bit different from the previous early Tamiya build - the return roller can't be identified properly so why not!
I also added the TREX drive sprocket mount to model a little more detail and set the model to a time before the photo. There is some nice detail already on the chassis, underneath where the Drive Sprocket covers are mounted. I will detial these further on the left side as opposided to the cover still on the left side.
TREX Tow Hooks were added to the front plate as well as weld beads in the corners of the front plate, which were non existent on the kit.
The
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Just be wary that the roadwheels in this set are for Tristar's (now Hobby Boss') early Pz.Kpfw. IV series and are of the narrow type. They are NOT suitable for the wider tires, regardless of the wheel centers you use.
If I ever replace roadwheels, I used the AFV Club roadwheel set, available separately, from their Sd.Kfz. 164 kit:
If I ever replace roadwheels, I used the AFV Club roadwheel set, available separately, from their Sd.Kfz. 164 kit:
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Hello again for drive sprocket time!
The right side was changed to represent this stage of dismantlement.
The left side will be modelled as per the photo with the drive sprocket and differential gearing cover removed. I initially planned to scratch build the 'diff' gearing details, starting with a backing part from the RFM Pz 4H full interior kit.
Saul has alerted me to an early Pz 4 Dragon kit that has this detail pre-molded into the hull, so he is sending me a spare hull he has which will enable me to cut out the detail and fit it to this hull.
The rear of the Chassis needed trimming down on the sides to accept the new rear deck I had cut off a Dragon Pzr 4 H kit for a previous build. This probably sounds counter productive but I will explain in a moment.
The photo shows the rear section with the top already trimmed down to accomadate the engine deck.
So the reasonbehind this madness is pretty simple - the Dragon Pz4 H smart kit used harder plastic than my later Pz4 70/A and the details just come out better, so I had a previously cut off rear deck from another build, so it was easy.
The metal barrel was added without the breach detail, so I had to make sure it was set at the right length of exposure.
Texture was added to the Upper structure with AK Super cast texture but it is exactly the same as my much cheaper Model pastse from my local art shop - just thought I would give it a try. I found I needed to 'fall back on my traditional methods and add some Tamiya putty as well. I then added the additional parts to finish the roof and in doing so found the terrible fit of the PE cover for the Loaders periscope. I replaced it with a scratch built one in white plastic and added the securing tabs as well.
The right side was changed to represent this stage of dismantlement.
The left side will be modelled as per the photo with the drive sprocket and differential gearing cover removed. I initially planned to scratch build the 'diff' gearing details, starting with a backing part from the RFM Pz 4H full interior kit.
Saul has alerted me to an early Pz 4 Dragon kit that has this detail pre-molded into the hull, so he is sending me a spare hull he has which will enable me to cut out the detail and fit it to this hull.
The rear of the Chassis needed trimming down on the sides to accept the new rear deck I had cut off a Dragon Pzr 4 H kit for a previous build. This probably sounds counter productive but I will explain in a moment.
The photo shows the rear section with the top already trimmed down to accomadate the engine deck.
So the reasonbehind this madness is pretty simple - the Dragon Pz4 H smart kit used harder plastic than my later Pz4 70/A and the details just come out better, so I had a previously cut off rear deck from another build, so it was easy.
The metal barrel was added without the breach detail, so I had to make sure it was set at the right length of exposure.
Texture was added to the Upper structure with AK Super cast texture but it is exactly the same as my much cheaper Model pastse from my local art shop - just thought I would give it a try. I found I needed to 'fall back on my traditional methods and add some Tamiya putty as well. I then added the additional parts to finish the roof and in doing so found the terrible fit of the PE cover for the Loaders periscope. I replaced it with a scratch built one in white plastic and added the securing tabs as well.
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Nice bashing Ian. 
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
It's all in the details.
Looking good Ian!
Looking good Ian!
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