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Italeri Fiat 806 GP racer 1:12

paddy

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I built one of these a couple of years ago here


For this reason i wasnt going to do thread this time but i think, as i plan to do something different this time if only to bounce ideas off the rest of you as most of this will be a bit experimental.
This subject has received a huge coverage on other forums and not for good reasons. Just about everything is wrong with the model. It started life as a Protar kit in the early 70's, later in morphed into a Italeri kit and lost a lot of the original Protar "Correctness" .....For example at the time Italeri produced another model i built here, the one off Fiat Mephistopheles


Rather than reproduce the Protar wheels for the Fiat 806, they just used the wheels off the Mephistopheles which were not only the wrong spoke pattern they were also the wrong width, diameter and had the wrong tyres.
So we can agree that Italeri were not really interested in correct detail... That's fine as long as we know (which i didnt on My first build of this model).

One other problem, that proved to be a "major" problem over time, was the use of dozens of screws in the original assembly as called out by Italeri. They had stuck with the screw idea that Protar had originally used but a lot of the Protar model had metal parts and or least, different parts. This meant that Italeri used self tap screws into , often, thin walled plastic that just split during assembly, or more commonly about a month later after the model was finished.... Fact is that i had to junk the model eventually because the amount of repairs it need after a few months as the structure self destructed, helped on by my use of ammo weathering products that seemed to make the plastic go brittle over time.

so here we go again. A lot of the parts are pretty rough, loads of flash and huge joining tabs to the sprues

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Cleaned up[ and with alclad it looks like this

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Originally this would have been held in place by 3x M1.4 self tap screws as supplied by Italeri... but i have used super glue and 3x MFH alloy hex head rivets.
Which sort of sets the tone for the way i want to go this time.

I have used a smaller version of these hex head rivets to replace the moulded blobs on the Chassis rails

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to be continued.........
 
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First time ended up as the disaster (no fault to Paddy) This time you know the kit faults and we will be watching as you make this an epic build.
 
You dont know till you try but try on something that cant be seen. These are the tie rods on the under side of the Chassis below the engine that help stop the Chassis spreading.

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Deconstructed, i cant get aluminium over here except in .5mm increments where as Brass is available in 0.1mm increments

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Its not difficult to do and its quite fun so i will add this sort of alteration to my repertoire :)
 
On another thread i pointed out the difference between the kit "floor" and the floor scratch built by another French guy using the engineering drawings.
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I thought i would try and tackle this first. Obviously i dont have the drawings so i can only go on the other guys build pictures (this is how mistakes become facts) :)

This is the kit part with huge ejection marks

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First thing i needed was a new floor, not dificult as you have a template in the kit part, i used 1.5mm plastic sheet.

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I did wonder about doing what the other guy did and solder up copper tanks but i figured it would be easier to use plastic card and if it didnt work i could fall back on the copper sheet

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Rather than fabricate the oval section on the left end i chopped it off the kit part. I hate doing this as once you have destroyed the kit part ythere is no turning back. I'm sure with more experience that feeling will get better as confidence grows :)

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Some black paint

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some alclad copper. I didnt wasnt this to look like polished copper so let a lot of the black show through the copper coat especially on the edges.

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And this where i am at now


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The wooden box is actually the seat base and is the kit part covered in wafer thin Balsa and stained.
There is a plastic boss i pinched off the original part that goes in the hole. this is a screw fixing to the chassis cross member and will be covered on the top surface by wooden planks.

so far so good :cool:
 
I have been a bit daft. I should have made the floor from wood rather than covering plastic as i think i will do this as a cutaway model which means you will se the under side of the floor as well. Oh well too late now :)

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This is about as far as i can go with the cockpit. Parts are balanced in position here as i need the floor on the Chassis to work out positioning as these parts are obviously taller and the body curves in at the top. I am sure it will be fine but it would be daft to go ahead and fix and find they foul by a 1/16" or so.


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