1/35 TRUMPETER BTR - 50PK APC IN THE MIDDLE EAST WARS

[Brokeneagle]

Well, here I am with my next project to do after these WW1 Armoured car projects.
I found a couple of profiles in a recent purchase - THE IRAN/IRAQ WARS (AK Profiles - Modern conflicts Vol.4)
I found these 2 images.

1.IRANIAN

2. IRAQI

QUESTION :- So I think I know which one I like but are still on the fence somewhat, so I wanted to see which one you guys think I should build?

 

[Heavens Eagle]

Both are interesting. My guess is which of the guns will be easier to obtain?

 

[Sharkmouth]

My choice is swayed by the current situation.

 

[jknaus]

I like both, but the cammed version with ZPU-2 is appealing, although so is the sand coloured one with ZSU. Hmmm that leaves you with only one valid choice. Get a second BTR-50. Problem solved. If I remember correctly Meng makes both guns also.
James

 

[Sharkmouth]

I like both, but the cammed version with ZPU-2 is appealing, although so is the sand coloured one with ZSU. Hmmm that leaves you with only one valid choice. Get a second BTR-50. Problem solved. If I remember correctly Meng makes both guns also.
James

You actually have three choices for the ZSU-23-2 and I reviewed all three!

Scale (ancient multi-media kit):

Meng:

Trumpeter:

I have detail shots from the reviews...

 

[Piet]

1.IRANIAN

 

[Sharkmouth]

If you want to be different... in order of complexity:

turret on turret but not for that kit:

If you like the 'Ostwind' inspired turret and want to use your kit:

More Iraqi:

On the engine deck:

Charlie Can't Surf V baby! 'Nam! To make combine kit with Meng ZPU-1 and get the round drilled barrel:

 

[iambrb]

The twin-barrel 23mm guns pointed almost vertically look SOOPER-neat!

I’ve been wanting to do something similar as well…..will be watching!

 

[Brokeneagle]

Both are interesting. My guess is which of the guns will be easier to obtain?

I have both guns already.

 

[Brokeneagle]

I like both, but the cammed version with ZPU-2 is appealing, although so is the sand coloured one with ZSU. Hmmm that leaves you with only one valid choice. Get a second BTR-50. Problem solved. If I remember correctly Meng makes both guns also.
James

I was thinking this myself as I already have both guns.

 

[Brokeneagle]

Decided to go with the Iraqi in the sand. This was influenced by the fact that I could not find my ZPU.

Thanks for everyones input

 

[Rhino]

It shreds credulity indeed that so many Doon Coons buy AMPHIBIOUS APC'S.

 

[Brokeneagle]

Got some indivual link track for this to replace the rubber band jobbies that came with the kit.

Some progress on the build as well

 

[Heavens Eagle]

That's something I didn't know about this vehicle. The water propulsion tubes.

 

[Brokeneagle]

Currently working on the side guard damage and the tracks.

As you can see in the image below the guard on the right side is extremly damaged or completly ripped off down to the welds. I am in the middle of getting this effect on mine.

The left side is 'Up for grabs' so I will be doing whatever damage grabs my fancy.

 

[Sharkmouth]

From our conversation on Saturday's Google Meet.

 

[Sharkmouth]

By the way, @Brokeneagle, did you notice that this Iranian one (which was posted before) is exactly how you are imagining it? Bolted down to the deck facing forward with a gun lock that looks inspired by one from an M4 Sherman.

 

[Sharkmouth]

@Brokeneagle, it turns out that your subject was actually Iranian, captured by the Iraqis, and then by the Americans in Operation Desert Storm. Now I am rethinking that the photo I just posted which I thought was bolted directly to the roof with no traversing capability is incorrect as that severely impacts the usefulness of the gun. Personally, I believe BOTH roof hatches were removed and the mount created on the floor elevating it enough to have the gun work in traverse and elevation.

This makes sense when viewing the sunken gun crewman's seat. The rear facing roof doors may have been removed or open in this photo and one sees what appears to be the some framework, possibly for the gun.

Last, this photo, with a recoilless gun, is only to show that gun locks were used and, although not seen in the photo you chose, probably is there: