Colossus-Building the Bismarck-Trumpeter 1/200th

[White_Wolf]

I am in awe of just how clean your work with that tiny PE is turning out. This is a true masterpiece!

Thank you Sir

Loooooooooong way to go, ton of PE left to do, only working on the easier bits at the moment


Laurence

 

[jknaus]

Shes gorgeous. Really enjoying the build.
James

 

[White_Wolf]

Shes gorgeous. Really enjoying the build.
James

Thank you James

Laurence

 

[White_Wolf]

Time for another update, albeit not a significant one in terms of the build, but more about experimenting.

The thing that bugged me when doing the water for the submarine diorama, was the lack of "3D effects" on the water, namely the crests and splashes, the foamy bits, not the spray necessarily. This time around, I have decided to experiment a couple of things.

Used some cat litter to create a "volume" of water, like a mound, then covered it all with celluclay and painted it using different shades - grey, blue-green and so on. Then, started modeling some wave crests and waves more or less vertical. The idea was that there will be "vertical" masses of water falling from the ship's deck, anchors and so on. For these waves / crests I have used glue sticks, shaved some glue off and gave it the shape I thought would be appropriate. Also tried with air drying clay, which is the longest wave on display there. Oil colors used exclusively.

Interested in hearing your opinion on this gentlemen, so please hit the keyboard

Thanks for watching.



Laurence

 

[Iron Mike]

Looks pretty believable to me. The coloration is good and I like the shapes. You're a braver man than me. :salute

 

[White_Wolf]

Looks pretty believable to me. The coloration is good and I like the shapes. You're a braver man than me. :salute

Thanks Mike

I see it as an attempt, no more, no less, subject to many iterations to make it look better - there is not enough gloss, no depth of color to the extent that i would like and much more.


Laurence

 

[Heavens Eagle]

Laurence, the only thing I am not seeing is depth to the splashes. While the agitated water is pretty much opaque, it doesn't have a solid surface but a little depth.

While the coloring is good, it just looks too solid. Maybe it is just the photos, but it seems there needs to be some 3rd dimension to it.

Just observing and thinking here. :hmmm

 

[bob letterman]

Hi Laurence,

Your experiments show real promise and they look realistic. The color is dead bang on and you've nailed the shapes. As Paul mentioned there needs to be some translucency here and there. As I have never attempted violent ocean water, only still seawater by a dry dock and canal water, I wouldn't presume to give you advice. However, I know a guy in New Orleans who has done that, I believe using some kind of resin within the Celluclay to simulate the translucent areas. I remember being impressed with his method. I'll email him and see if he will let me in on his secret!

I like the way you work. Experiment with something other than the subject, so if it goes wrong, nothing is lost. It's great to see guys pushing their limits! I've been pushing mine in so many directions for so many years, but it seems the more I learn, the more I need to learn. It's an endless process.

Bob

 

[phantom II]

I agree with everything said . It's all good but needs some translucence .

You're braver than me , my friend :drinks

Cheers, Christian B)

 

[moon puppy]

That's cool!

 

[White_Wolf]

Laurence, the only thing I am not seeing is depth to the splashes. While the agitated water is pretty much opaque, it doesn't have a solid surface but a little depth.

While the coloring is good, it just looks too solid. Maybe it is just the photos, but it seems there needs to be some 3rd dimension to it.

Just observing and thinking here. :hmmm

Thanks Paul, those are my thoughts too - what I tried there was purely about the shape / size, see how solid the "waves" would end up being once everything is dry etc. Color wise ...I am not thrilled, although it doesn't look like a total disaster - I want it more leaning towards a grey shade, this is supposed to be the Baltic sea.

Other than that, you're right, depth is much needed.

Laurence

 

[White_Wolf]

Hi Laurence,

Your experiments show real promise and they look realistic. The color is dead bang on and you've nailed the shapes. As Paul mentioned there needs to be some translucency here and there. As I have never attempted violent ocean water, only still seawater by a dry dock and canal water, I wouldn't presume to give you advice. However, I know a guy in New Orleans who has done that, I believe using some kind of resin within the Celluclay to simulate the translucent areas. I remember being impressed with his method. I'll email him and see if he will let me in on his secret!

I like the way you work. Experiment with something other than the subject, so if it goes wrong, nothing is lost. It's great to see guys pushing their limits! I've been pushing mine in so many directions for so many years, but it seems the more I learn, the more I need to learn. It's an endless process.

Bob

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the compliments

Please feel free to give me advice anytime and thanks for trying to get in touch with that guy - I am happy to give it a go.

Water has been on my mind since I did that submarine diorama. Still water is fine of course, but I want drama, big drama, the sort of stuff that is generally seen as a big challenge - stormy waters. I got some other ideas I want to try too, but it might take a few days before I get the chance to show some results. This time it will be me playing with epoxy resin and another kind that is called Casting resin over here, the difference being in the mix ratio (epoxy 1:1, casting is like one drop hardener for 100ml of resin or something).

I am against using cotton / poly fiber etc, at least for now. I want to try using other materials, then we shall see :captain


Cheers,

Laurence

 

[White_Wolf]

I agree with everything said . It's all good but needs some translucence .

You're braver than me , my friend :drinks

Cheers, Christian B)

Thanks Christian,

Yes, totally agree - translucency must be obtained


Laurence

 

[White_Wolf]

That's cool!

Thanks MP long way to go still .... but making small progress is better than nothing


Laurence

 

[Piet]

https://youtu.be/Yeq0G-TYQMU

 

[lupanzer]

Like very much the results, Laurence!...I think you´re in the right way ldguy

Btw, the video posted by Piet is very useful, very insping :frantic

Luiz.

 

[White_Wolf]

https://youtu.be/Yeq0G-TYQMU

Love this video, thank you

 

[White_Wolf]

Like very much the results, Laurence!...I think you´re in the right way ldguy

Btw, the video posted by Piet is very useful, very insping :frantic

Luiz.

Thanks Luiz, agree, that video is very useful indeed


Laurence

 

[moon puppy]

https://youtu.be/Yeq0G-TYQMU

That looks great but all those 24 hour drying periods would be torture for me!

Instant gratification for me!!!

Thanks Piet :dude

 

[Gator]

Try using a clear gloss artist medium for the water. You can get some great shapes and the transparency you need.