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Kotare Spitfire
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phantom II
Master at Arms
Darn Bob, that IP looks awesome . About the interior fuselage, I don't see any markings on the sheet metal which leads me to believe it's painted . Not sure if the Brits had identifying marks on their sheet metal .
Still just dry fit, lots going on in here.
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centaur567
Well-known member
Great detail. Too bad it's going to be closed up or are you going to open up some panels? Gary S.
I'm still debating that one Gary.
Flair dispensers from what the instructions say.
I'm no spitfire expert by any means. What I like is they have a bulkhead that has holes labeled E and R to string the rudder and elevator cables. Don't know if the real one had this feature but it's something the old WnW kits could have benefited from. I'll get a better shot of it later.
Edit to add:
I search Spitfire Flare Chute and the only images I come up with relates to this kit. Can't find any primary sources for this.
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jknaus
Administrator
From what I can find the Mk I had two parachute flare tubes until armoured seats where introduced when one was removed for CoG reasons. Later in the Mk II early Mk Vs the other tube was removed. Later models and RN models used a flare gun. The reason for the remote firing tubes was to prevent accidentally firing the flare into the cockpit.
She's looking gorgeous Bob. Loving the build.
James
She's looking gorgeous Bob. Loving the build.
James
RichB
Well-known member
They were for parachute flares used to illuminate the airfield for night landings. They were released by a pull cable running from the cockpit. When pulled the flare would push through a hinged door. In June 1940 the forward tube was either removed or disabled in the Mk I and II due to C of G concerns with the added seat armour. The early Mk V's only had one tube. It was deleted in late production Mk V's and later marks. The flares were about 3 ft long, 4.5 in diameter and weighed about 25 lbs.
Chutes in situ.
When Spitfire Mk I, II and V were modified for the ASR role there was a dinghy survival pack designed that fit in the chute. If the chute had been removed it may have been replaced during the modification.
Dinghy packs being loaded on a Spitfire II ASR.
These shouldn't be confused with the recognition flares originally fired with the Very pistol that was replaced by the Plessy system in June 1940. It was a 6 cartridge downward firing pistol mounted on the lower fuselage centreline positioned about half way between the wing trailing edge and tailplane leading edge. The pilot had a T-handle in the cockpit to select the colour and fire the flare. In April 1941 the pistol was moved to an upward firing position on the right hand side of the spine at about the same fore-aft position. On the later low back marks the port was moved to the left hand side. With the installation of the Plessy system the Very pistol was removed from the cockpit with the seat mounted flare rack remaining for awhile.
The firing port on the spine between the 4 and roundel.
The firing port just aft of the J.
The ports were usually covered with doped fabric. The underside port covering was usually finished to match the underside colour. The spine ports were most often done in red like the gun ports but could be seen in other colours.
The Seafire retained the Very pistol as the original position for the Plessy system was were the arrestor hook was installed.
Cheers,
RichB
Chutes in situ.
When Spitfire Mk I, II and V were modified for the ASR role there was a dinghy survival pack designed that fit in the chute. If the chute had been removed it may have been replaced during the modification.
Dinghy packs being loaded on a Spitfire II ASR.
These shouldn't be confused with the recognition flares originally fired with the Very pistol that was replaced by the Plessy system in June 1940. It was a 6 cartridge downward firing pistol mounted on the lower fuselage centreline positioned about half way between the wing trailing edge and tailplane leading edge. The pilot had a T-handle in the cockpit to select the colour and fire the flare. In April 1941 the pistol was moved to an upward firing position on the right hand side of the spine at about the same fore-aft position. On the later low back marks the port was moved to the left hand side. With the installation of the Plessy system the Very pistol was removed from the cockpit with the seat mounted flare rack remaining for awhile.
The firing port on the spine between the 4 and roundel.
The firing port just aft of the J.
The ports were usually covered with doped fabric. The underside port covering was usually finished to match the underside colour. The spine ports were most often done in red like the gun ports but could be seen in other colours.
The Seafire retained the Very pistol as the original position for the Plessy system was were the arrestor hook was installed.
Cheers,
RichB
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
Interesting.
All this detail
Ends up in here.
Got a bit more rigging to do for the shoulder harness.
Ends up in here.
Got a bit more rigging to do for the shoulder harness.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
That looks Friggin' awesome MP, really 
. Love It! 
. Love It!
Well I was worried about this. The IP didn't feel right, I could not get it to snug all the way down in the slot that it fits into, thought it was close enough.
I could not get the panel to snug down far enough to fit right so I had to trim the surface where it mates to the IP. That worked.
Don't know why the primer build up there, will sand it down.
Fuselage halves are glued but the upper cowl and that panel are not. Will make them more snug before glue. I really like how they have these parts designed. I suppose it makes it easier to represent different marks by swapping out these panels. There's optional panels based on which scheme you're building. I'm doing scheme B if anyone checks the instructions.
Also no nasty seam lines to get dinged on with pin lights.
I could not get the panel to snug down far enough to fit right so I had to trim the surface where it mates to the IP. That worked.
Don't know why the primer build up there, will sand it down.
Fuselage halves are glued but the upper cowl and that panel are not. Will make them more snug before glue. I really like how they have these parts designed. I suppose it makes it easier to represent different marks by swapping out these panels. There's optional panels based on which scheme you're building. I'm doing scheme B if anyone checks the instructions.
Also no nasty seam lines to get dinged on with pin lights.
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Tail feathers are on.
I've forgot how big these 1:32 planes can be.
I've forgot how big these 1:32 planes can be.
phantom II
Master at Arms
Hmmmm , your bench appears to be too small for this one Bob .
Maybe I need to do some "5 S" on the bench.
