MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
We'll make this happen, give me a little time. I got a doctors excuse don't you know...
We'll make this happen, give me a little time. I got a doctors excuse don't you know...
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RichB
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Is that the same excuse note you've been using since elementary school?
Cheers,
Rich
We'll make this happen, give me a little time. I got a doctors excuse don't you know...
Is that the same excuse note you've been using since elementary school?
Cheers,
Rich
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Yeah and it's worked since then.... :stinker
We'll make this happen, give me a little time. I got a doctors excuse don't you know...
Is that the same excuse note you've been using since elementary school?
Cheers,
Rich
Yeah and it's worked since then.... :stinker
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
:hmmm :hmmm
:hmmm :hmmm
RichB
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
We should define a Theatre of Operations for "Middle East" to determine eligible subjects. Currently it is commonly defined as spanning from the western border of Egypt to the eastern border of Iran and from Turkey's northern border to the southern end of the Arabian Peninsula and includes the island of Cyprus.
At various times it has been expanded to include North African countries as far west as Morocco as well as those along the African shore of the Red Sea. The western border has also been placed along the Suez Canal, eliminating African countries. In the east, Afghanistan and Pakistan have been included.
To the north, there have been times that Turkey was not included and at times only the Asian portion of Turkey.
For consideration.
Cheers,
Rich
We should define a Theatre of Operations for "Middle East" to determine eligible subjects. Currently it is commonly defined as spanning from the western border of Egypt to the eastern border of Iran and from Turkey's northern border to the southern end of the Arabian Peninsula and includes the island of Cyprus.
At various times it has been expanded to include North African countries as far west as Morocco as well as those along the African shore of the Red Sea. The western border has also been placed along the Suez Canal, eliminating African countries. In the east, Afghanistan and Pakistan have been included.
To the north, there have been times that Turkey was not included and at times only the Asian portion of Turkey.
For consideration.
Cheers,
Rich
Skinny_Mike
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
No worries boss. I need a week anyway to get through the Mk IV. This will be a fun build to work through as I weather my king tiger. Something about watching paint dry springs to mind.
We'll make this happen, give me a little time. I got a doctors excuse don't you know...
No worries boss. I need a week anyway to get through the Mk IV. This will be a fun build to work through as I weather my king tiger. Something about watching paint dry springs to mind.
Flyingbabydoc
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
I am most definitely in, as Long as airplanes in 1/72 are accepted.
Cheers
Alex
I am most definitely in, as Long as airplanes in 1/72 are accepted.
Cheers
Alex
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
You should try an armor subject for a change Alex, you might find that you like it.
You should try an armor subject for a change Alex, you might find that you like it.
Flyingbabydoc
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Well, Paul, I know nothing about armored vehicles. I probably could recognize a T-34, a Tiger and a Leopard but that is about it. I have always enjoyed airplanes and to a lesser extent ships (mostly aircraft carriers).
I will follow your Suggestion and try now to build some trucks for the BOB Diorama in the Pilot Campaign. Then I will let you know how it goes. As for this campaign, there are way to many cool IAF planes to choose from - also arab choices are almost endless. I thought about a Macchi Mc-205 Veltro in Egyptian Colors. how about it?
Cheers
Alex
Well, Paul, I know nothing about armored vehicles. I probably could recognize a T-34, a Tiger and a Leopard but that is about it. I have always enjoyed airplanes and to a lesser extent ships (mostly aircraft carriers).
I will follow your Suggestion and try now to build some trucks for the BOB Diorama in the Pilot Campaign. Then I will let you know how it goes. As for this campaign, there are way to many cool IAF planes to choose from - also arab choices are almost endless. I thought about a Macchi Mc-205 Veltro in Egyptian Colors. how about it?
Cheers
Alex
Flyingbabydoc
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
That is a very good point Rich, thanks for pointing that out. I for one cannot imagine the Middle East without considering Egypt as a part of the whole intrinsic problematic of the Region. As for Pakistan, I see it as a bit of a Stretch - it belongs to the Indian subcontinent in my view.
Cheers
Alex
That is a very good point Rich, thanks for pointing that out. I for one cannot imagine the Middle East without considering Egypt as a part of the whole intrinsic problematic of the Region. As for Pakistan, I see it as a bit of a Stretch - it belongs to the Indian subcontinent in my view.
Cheers
Alex
iambrb
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Hey Flyingbabydoc.....1/72 aircraft are A-OK!
Ok, now this started as IDF, then it's antagonists, and including the time prior to modern Israel is OK if people want to go do that, but modern Israel and it's antagonists are the mainstay.. So bearing that in mind, here is how I see it, boundaries-wise (not trying to be too fussy, but we do have to have some boundaries):
Timeframe - Primarily 1930's-present (the struggle for what is now Israel began in 1936, FWIW), older considered though (trireme, chariot, Roman centurion, etc).
Area/Countries - (Note that I am using modern countries as reference): Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and of course, Israel.
Subjects - Armor, Aircraft (fixed & rotary wing, prop to jet), & shipping too (if there are any kits out there to support it, I'm game), figures
Think about it:
ARMOR - in the period between 1936 to 1948 war, a host or armored cars and "custom built" armored cars were used, along with various light tanks & early war tanks, plus a host of jeep-like vehicles from all nations, such as the US, Britain, USSR, France, and Germany. WW2 armor too, including some notable standouts like Shermans, Cromwells, Archers, T-34/85, & SU-100's. Post 1948 through modern times included Syrian Panzer IV & Stug III's. Egypt used a whole host of WW2 equipment and the Israelis used any darn thing they could lay hands on, like French made copies of the US Willys jeep, armed with Czech-made MG-34's. And after the '56 war, armor from the US and France (and french up-gunned versions of old Shermans) and the like were heavily used.
AIRCRAFT - My goodness, everything from early Czech fighters pieced together, to transports of various types, and bombers, like the B-17, the P-51, the Glouster Meteor, the Fouga Magister and other aircraft, along with Cobra and MD500 helicopters and a host of aircraft I cannot even imagine were used and are still used.
Those are just two basic subjects. I have been thinking of a way to have a series of ribbons, similar to the Vietnam campaign and running for a year at least.
Hey Flyingbabydoc.....1/72 aircraft are A-OK!
Ok, now this started as IDF, then it's antagonists, and including the time prior to modern Israel is OK if people want to go do that, but modern Israel and it's antagonists are the mainstay.. So bearing that in mind, here is how I see it, boundaries-wise (not trying to be too fussy, but we do have to have some boundaries):
Timeframe - Primarily 1930's-present (the struggle for what is now Israel began in 1936, FWIW), older considered though (trireme, chariot, Roman centurion, etc).
Area/Countries - (Note that I am using modern countries as reference): Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and of course, Israel.
Subjects - Armor, Aircraft (fixed & rotary wing, prop to jet), & shipping too (if there are any kits out there to support it, I'm game), figures
Think about it:
ARMOR - in the period between 1936 to 1948 war, a host or armored cars and "custom built" armored cars were used, along with various light tanks & early war tanks, plus a host of jeep-like vehicles from all nations, such as the US, Britain, USSR, France, and Germany. WW2 armor too, including some notable standouts like Shermans, Cromwells, Archers, T-34/85, & SU-100's. Post 1948 through modern times included Syrian Panzer IV & Stug III's. Egypt used a whole host of WW2 equipment and the Israelis used any darn thing they could lay hands on, like French made copies of the US Willys jeep, armed with Czech-made MG-34's. And after the '56 war, armor from the US and France (and french up-gunned versions of old Shermans) and the like were heavily used.
AIRCRAFT - My goodness, everything from early Czech fighters pieced together, to transports of various types, and bombers, like the B-17, the P-51, the Glouster Meteor, the Fouga Magister and other aircraft, along with Cobra and MD500 helicopters and a host of aircraft I cannot even imagine were used and are still used.
Those are just two basic subjects. I have been thinking of a way to have a series of ribbons, similar to the Vietnam campaign and running for a year at least.
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Historicly I. Have to disagree the big problem started with the Balfour Declaration and other promises the English made to Arab peoples to help them fight the Ottoman Empire in WW1 and the subsequent walking back of the Balfour Declaration and the breaking up of the Middle East By england and France post WW1 In a very big way WW1 started of the fighting we still see in the middle east.
Historicly I. Have to disagree the big problem started with the Balfour Declaration and other promises the English made to Arab peoples to help them fight the Ottoman Empire in WW1 and the subsequent walking back of the Balfour Declaration and the breaking up of the Middle East By england and France post WW1 In a very big way WW1 started of the fighting we still see in the middle east.
iambrb
Well-known member
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Yes, the Balfour Declaration took place in 1917, but was not adopted by the League of Nations until 1922. Violence did flare periodically, most natbly a large Jewish community in Hebron being burned, but I cited 1936, as it was the first "Arab Revolt" to Jews living in what was then called Palestine, and a direct affront and attempt to cause Britain to change it's policy from the Balfour Declaration, and it contained specific goals it wanted to achieve. As this was the first unified 'revolt' against the Jews, 1936 is used as the start point of the struggle still going on today.
Actually, it was on April 15,1936, when Arabs stopped and hi-jacked a small convoy of Jewish trucks on thier way from Haifa to Tel Aviv, excecuting the two Jewish drivers, two random Arabs were killed the next day, and so it began
Yes, the Balfour Declaration took place in 1917, but was not adopted by the League of Nations until 1922. Violence did flare periodically, most natbly a large Jewish community in Hebron being burned, but I cited 1936, as it was the first "Arab Revolt" to Jews living in what was then called Palestine, and a direct affront and attempt to cause Britain to change it's policy from the Balfour Declaration, and it contained specific goals it wanted to achieve. As this was the first unified 'revolt' against the Jews, 1936 is used as the start point of the struggle still going on today.
Actually, it was on April 15,1936, when Arabs stopped and hi-jacked a small convoy of Jewish trucks on thier way from Haifa to Tel Aviv, excecuting the two Jewish drivers, two random Arabs were killed the next day, and so it began
MIDDLE EAST CAULDRON OF WAR campaign
Ok, GAME On.
Start'em up now.
Far as I'm concern it can be any time period to now. Seems like there's always been war on in the Middle East since time started.
Ok, GAME On.
Start'em up now.
Far as I'm concern it can be any time period to now. Seems like there's always been war on in the Middle East since time started.
Duke Maddog
Well-known member
Excellent! I just found my kit and conversion set for the M-51 Sherman. I gotta get started on that now.
Sherman 18
Master at Arms
Well I have these three un-started kits
tanks with extra blocks on them are always cool
Real thing
Iraqi tanks are nice weathering subjects
Real thing
As are Iranian tanks
Real thing
tanks with extra blocks on them are always cool
Real thing
Iraqi tanks are nice weathering subjects
Real thing
As are Iranian tanks
Real thing
