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WIldcat vs Val in 1/72

Thanks everyone

YOu are very kind to me. As I look at the pictures, I see that there are some aspects which are better but overall it did not come out as good as the Zero. I reckon that if you brush paint, you need too much of the enamel (even in several coats) to get the job done, and the details simply vanish. Also, the end result is murky and thick. :smack :eek:hmy: :eek:hmy: :eek:hmy:

I would like to repeat the build but now it is time to move forward - the Wildcat is waiting, then some other projects. I will try and start the wildcat this week, but not sure if I can - I am writing a grant proposal and the deadline is coming up... :( :(

Thanks again friends,

Alex

P.S: Retracted or extended wings for the Wildcat?

P.P.S: Bob can you started a completed builds thread? Thanks!
 
We are our own worst critics about our work. We seethe flaws & the problems we didn't quite cover...
As for the Wildcat, I think I'd go with retracted. Just looks so kewl that way! (y) :drinks
 
Thanks everyone

YOu are very kind to me. As I look at the pictures, I see that there are some aspects which are better but overall it did not come out as good as the Zero. I reckon that if you brush paint, you need too much of the enamel (even in several coats) to get the job done, and the details simply vanish. Also, the end result is murky and thick. :smack :eek:hmy: :eek:hmy: :eek:hmy:

I would like to repeat the build but now it is time to move forward - the Wildcat is waiting, then some other projects. I will try and start the wildcat this week, but not sure if I can - I am writing a grant proposal and the deadline is coming up... :( :(

Thanks again friends,

Alex

P.S: Retracted or extended wings for the Wildcat?

P.P.S: Bob can you started a completed builds thread? Thanks!


Hi Alex . I think that in that time frame we were flying the F-4F3 which did not have the retractable wings.

http://www.pacificaviationmuseum.org/aircraft/F4F3

Cheers, Christian B)
 
Thanks Christian, you are absolutely right. The USS Enterprise had at the time of Pearl Harbor only F4F-3A (the only one actually), with the modified supercharger in the engines.

The F4F-4 arrived only later and took part on Midway.

"At the time of Pearl Harbor, only Enterprise had a fully equipped Wildcat squadron, VF-6 with F4F-3As. Enterprise was then transferring a detachment of VMF-211, also equipped with F4F-3s, to Wake. Saratoga was in San Diego, working up for operations of the F4F-3s of VF-3. 11 F4F-3s of VMF-211 were at the Ewa Marine Air Corps Station on Oahu; nine of these were damaged or destroyed during the Japanese attack. The detachment of VMF-211 on Wake lost seven Wildcats to Japanese attacks on 8 December, but the remaining five put up a fierce defense, making the first bomber kill on 9 December. The destroyer Kisaragi was sunk by the Wildcats,[33] and the Japanese invasion force retreated"

"A new version, the F4F-4, entered service in 1941 with six machine guns and folding wings which allowed more aircraft to be stored on an aircraft carrier, increasing the number of fighters that could be parked on a surface by more than a factor of 2. The F4F-4 was the definitive version that saw the most combat service in the early war years, including the Battle of Midway. The F4F-3 was replaced by the F4F-4 in June 1942, during the Battle of Midway; only VMF-221 still used them at that time"

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Excellent. That settles it then: extended wings.

As for your skills, they are improving. I am also trying hard to improve my skills; my Saturn V and Space shuttle are not nearly as good as I want therm to be but I haven't the skills, knowledge or resources I need to do them better. I am still in the fight though and will continue to strive for better results. So, when you look on your current completed models; don't allow yourself to get discouraged. Instead, look on them as learning aids and become more encouraged to improve while you learn what to do to improve. Let your models motivate you to do better. You'll get there.


Looking forward to seeing more.
 
Excellent. That settles it then: extended wings.

As for your skills, they are improving. I am also trying hard to improve my skills; my Saturn V and Space shuttle are not nearly as good as I want therm to be but I haven't the skills, knowledge or resources I need to do them better. I am still in the fight though and will continue to strive for better results. So, when you look on your current completed models; don't allow yourself to get discouraged. Instead, look on them as learning aids and become more encouraged to improve while you learn what to do to improve. Let your models motivate you to do better. You'll get there.


Looking forward to seeing more.

Yeppers! :drinks
 
So, when you look on your current completed models; don't allow yourself to get discouraged. Instead, look on them as learning aids and become more encouraged to improve while you learn what to do to improve. Let your models motivate you to do better. You'll get there.

Thank you so much for the support and encouragement. It is sometimes hard, you see so much wonderful work here (Christian's Skua, Matrixone's Ki-46 Dinah. Luiz's Merkava Tank and so on, just to name a few that I have seen) that when you look back at what you do you cannot think anything but "what a bunch of wasted plastic"... I guess I am overly critical, simply because in other areas I cannot afford to fail even a bit...

I really appreciate your words. Surely with all the help here I will get there. If not, close enough, like Apollo 13!

Cheers

Alex
 
Thank you so much for the support and encouragement. It is sometimes hard, you see so much wonderful work here (Christian's Skua, Matrixone's Ki-46 Dinah. Luiz's Merkava Tank and so on, just to name a few that I have seen) that when you look back at what you do you cannot think anything but "what a bunch of wasted plastic"... I guess I am overly critical, simply because in other areas I cannot afford to fail even a bit...
Bah! Hang in there. I don't see anything to be ashamed of. I'd put them on display in my living room. And I really dig the base...adds a nice finish to it.


So, when you look on your current completed models; don't allow yourself to get discouraged. Instead, look on them as learning aids and become more encouraged to improve while you learn what to do to improve. Let your models motivate you to do better.
That's the money shot right there. :blink

I'm notorious for picking apart my builds. That's just my way of identifying areas to try to improve on during the next build. I may have 6 or 7 specific issues that bug me, but I try not to let it affect my opinion of the overall project (the Mirage is a prime example, I'm happy with it so far but not 100%). I've still got a long way to go myself, resuming the hobby after 20+ years, I'm more than a little rusty. Add in my tendency to jump in with both feet...I'm experimenting with new techniques (to me), even before I've gotten my basic skills back up to par. Hell, I'm just now using an airbrush for the first time. :huh: I'm just a disaster waiting to happen...but it's going to be fun ride on the way there. :woohoo:
 
Thanks so much for the kind words, Helios. I am planning on working on many of the little things that bothered my thus far and, although I may complain a bit, there is no way I am letting this hobby go! My father taught me how to build (first Spitfire at age 5) and I have been on and off again in the hobby since then. Now I am getting more bench time and therefore things are bound to improve! (y)

Good luck with the airbrush. I really wish I could use one. Maybe I will find some system that allows me to extinguish the fumes very fast whilst keeping my lungs protected.

Stay tuned. Wildcat coming up, then I am thinking an Avenger for the Torpedo campaign, a Stuka for the Junkers and the Akagi... :skipper

Cheers

Alex
 
Wow, I look at your builds and note how much you have improved :)

Have any of us old timers got to where we are overnight ? Doubtful ?

I generally try one new thing in most builds and yet after all these builds I am still trying to build the perfect model :idonno

I suppose if I ever master it to that point, there will be no need to build more.

Cheers, Christian B)
 
You guys are very kind. Thank you so much... :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

Whilst working on the Val, I did a little side project to test a few things for future models. Actually I am pleased with the results. Look for yourself: no scratching, no salt, just plain brush-painting with Mr. Color. (Now I am hijacking my own thread...) :eek:hmy: :eek:hmy:

This is a Nakajima B6N2 Type 12 "Jill" from the IJN Taiho in 1944. Model is Fujimi 1/72, the base is the Eduard plate of the Zuikaku.

I will try and begin the Wildcat this weekend, if all goes well (after my birthday party on Sunday...)

Cheers everyone and thanks for looking.

Alex



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That is an excellent start to chipping on that Jill. My suggestion is to try ant again on another aircraft with a finer-tipped brush; that way you can make it look a bit more subtle on planes that would not be chipped as much. I still like it; that is excellent.

Have a Happy Birthday and enjoy the Wildcat. I hope your day is filled with family, fun and styrene kits!
 
Thank you so much.

This was just a side-project to see which one of the chipping techniques would work out better for me. I used this Jill as a experimentation board, and really banged it up!

I was not happy with the salt thing (the planes seemed to be infected with small pox :sick: :sick: ), neither with the 11-Blade chipping (to me it looked unrealistic). This painting alone gave a better look. I will try a even smaller brush next time and see what the results will be. The Wildcat will not be chipped though.. they were brand new aboard the Enterprise!

Cheers

Alex

P.S. My dear Bob, where is my badge???? ;) ;)
 
I am just messing with you, Bob. I can only imagine how much work managing this site must be. And you do a pretty darn good job as far as I can tell.

Have a nice weekend! :drinks

Alex
 
So what I'm gathering is you painted those chips using those super duper opti-visors ... that's in the tool box ... nice work Doc ... Happy Birthday Sunday ...

Now out of all the processes shown Here I liked MichealC's the best where He used the sponge dipped in a masking solution ... which turned out awesome ... so that would be what I thought you had done on this ... Me I absorbing everything you guys throw at me ... Now does anyone have any extra time ??
 
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