Flyingbabydoc
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We have something similar here I use it for the final coating in the planes. Applying the gloss with a brush is not a problem I have a special brush for that. I will try on the next model.
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WIldcat vs Val in 1/72
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phantom II
Master at Arms
Try to find the equivalent of Future . It is more forgiving than anything I have ever used and when you buy a bottle, you'll have a lifetime supply .
Cheaper than any hobby products.
Cheers, Christian B)
Cheaper than any hobby products.
Cheers, Christian B)
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
I think it is also called Pledge floor finish now or something similar. I will look tonight when I get home.
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
Hey Alex, what brand of paint are you using to paint with? I might have a suggestion that could help depending on what paint you are using.
Pledge with Future shine is the current name of it but I know it's not available in Europe. Not sure what it's branded as there.
It's actually changed again and is now just Pledge floor care. I thought in Europe it was Johnson's Klear?
Flyingbabydoc
Well-known member
Hi Everyone
Thanks for the comments. I haven't found Johnson's clear, maybe it is just in the UK? Here in Germany I found this product :
It should work the same, I think, it contains Tenside which works as a fat remover and some wax-like product.
Paul, I use mostly acrylic either from Mr. Color (Gunze Sangyo) or Italeri, a few Lifecolor bottles also.
Adam, I use the normal Tamiya masking tape.
If you have a better suggestion, I am all eyes!
Cheers
Alex
Thanks for the comments. I haven't found Johnson's clear, maybe it is just in the UK? Here in Germany I found this product :
It should work the same, I think, it contains Tenside which works as a fat remover and some wax-like product.
Paul, I use mostly acrylic either from Mr. Color (Gunze Sangyo) or Italeri, a few Lifecolor bottles also.
Adam, I use the normal Tamiya masking tape.
If you have a better suggestion, I am all eyes!
Cheers
Alex
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
If that product has any kind of cleaner stuff in it I wouldn't use it. The "Future" Floor wax we talk about here in the States is basically an acrylic coating.
As an example some folks "dip" their canopies in it and carefully set them aside (covered against dust) to dry. Gives the clear canopy a real clear glossy smooth finish and tends to hide and cover up small scratches. I have been tempted to work over and coat my Toyota Corrolla headlight lenses with it as they have gotten a bit rough looking.
As to the paint, I was thinking since you use brushes only, you might try Vallejo paints and a wet pallet. Thing is they need a primer over plastic and metal to stick well. Vallejo paints need to be thinned a fair aount to use, but paint on thin. Several coats give a nice thin even coverage (even white) though you do need a clear coat before adding decals.
Really difficult coming up with helpful since you are allergic to airbrush mist.
Maybe you could get a defunct pre-natal unit (big clear box with arm holes) to turn into a paint booth.
I'll keep thinking on this. :hmmm
Oh and for good "pointy" brushes for detail painting, I am finding some of the GamesWorkshop size 0 and 1 brushes work much better than the tiny ones and keep their sharp point (unless you abuse them).
As an example some folks "dip" their canopies in it and carefully set them aside (covered against dust) to dry. Gives the clear canopy a real clear glossy smooth finish and tends to hide and cover up small scratches. I have been tempted to work over and coat my Toyota Corrolla headlight lenses with it as they have gotten a bit rough looking.
As to the paint, I was thinking since you use brushes only, you might try Vallejo paints and a wet pallet. Thing is they need a primer over plastic and metal to stick well. Vallejo paints need to be thinned a fair aount to use, but paint on thin. Several coats give a nice thin even coverage (even white) though you do need a clear coat before adding decals.
Really difficult coming up with helpful since you are allergic to airbrush mist.
Maybe you could get a defunct pre-natal unit (big clear box with arm holes) to turn into a paint booth.
I'll keep thinking on this. :hmmm
Oh and for good "pointy" brushes for detail painting, I am finding some of the GamesWorkshop size 0 and 1 brushes work much better than the tiny ones and keep their sharp point (unless you abuse them).
Hi Everyone
Thanks for the comments. I haven't found Johnson's clear, maybe it is just in the UK? Here in Germany I found this product :
It should work the same, I think, it contains Tenside which works as a fat remover and some wax-like product.
Paul, I use mostly acrylic either from Mr. Color (Gunze Sangyo) or Italeri, a few Lifecolor bottles also.
Adam, I use the normal Tamiya masking tape.
If you have a better suggestion, I am all eyes!
Cheers
Alex
AS Paul pointed out, that ain't it but check this out.
http://www.modellbaufarben.de/
Look to the right on that page.
Flyingbabydoc
Well-known member
Thank you so much Bob!!!!!!!! :drinks :drinks
I have searched for this everywhere, and you found it! Now I can have future too!
I guess you really need to leave it to the IT guys... :yipee
Already bought 4 bottles. Should be enough to start.
Really appreciate it.
Paul, your idea of using an incubator is good, but they are not sealed - cannot be, otherwise with the constant pumping of humidity and oxygen they would turn into a pressure cooking pan. Unfortunately the airbrush dilema is almost impossible to solve. Specially now when spring comes around, my asthma gets really bad...
Cheers everyone
Alex
P.S. Bob, how about my badge for the Wildcat???
I have searched for this everywhere, and you found it! Now I can have future too!
I guess you really need to leave it to the IT guys... :yipee
Already bought 4 bottles. Should be enough to start.
Really appreciate it.
Paul, your idea of using an incubator is good, but they are not sealed - cannot be, otherwise with the constant pumping of humidity and oxygen they would turn into a pressure cooking pan. Unfortunately the airbrush dilema is almost impossible to solve. Specially now when spring comes around, my asthma gets really bad...
Cheers everyone
Alex
P.S. Bob, how about my badge for the Wildcat???
4 bottles?! Might as well do your floors with it also. I bought one bottle years ago and not even through half of it. You should be covered for a while. 
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
Hey Alex, the incubator is only part 1. Then you cut a hole in one end, add a fan and a shroud for pulling air out. Then it has an adapter to attach a dryer hose. The dryer hose goes to an insert you build to fit in a window.
Instant paint booth.
If the incubator was sealed it wouldn't work.
Here are some pics of my home made paint booth parts.
Here is the back side. The fans and the home made ducting with the hose attached.
Here is what the old ducting looks like after a LOT of spraying. Have had this hose for years.
This is an OLD insert I used to use in my window. I have a newer one that is a small box that fits perfectly. Open the window a bit, insert box (that has weather strip) close window. It can be raining, snowing, cold or hot out and it makes no difference.
Here is the hose attached.
For grins here is the front side of mine. Yours needs to be a whole box.
If done right it should have some negative pressure. Always pulling air from the room. Something to think about?
I tend to think outside the box a lot. Mine is made out of masonite and clear acrylic sheet, with some aluminum extrusion from the hardware store here and there. I finally did away with the filter as it resisted air flow from the fans. What that means is that occasionally I have to wipe down the fan housings and blades. They get a coating of black powdery crud.
Instant paint booth.
If the incubator was sealed it wouldn't work.
Here are some pics of my home made paint booth parts.
Here is the back side. The fans and the home made ducting with the hose attached.
Here is what the old ducting looks like after a LOT of spraying. Have had this hose for years.
This is an OLD insert I used to use in my window. I have a newer one that is a small box that fits perfectly. Open the window a bit, insert box (that has weather strip) close window. It can be raining, snowing, cold or hot out and it makes no difference.
Here is the hose attached.
For grins here is the front side of mine. Yours needs to be a whole box.
If done right it should have some negative pressure. Always pulling air from the room. Something to think about?
I tend to think outside the box a lot. Mine is made out of masonite and clear acrylic sheet, with some aluminum extrusion from the hardware store here and there. I finally did away with the filter as it resisted air flow from the fans. What that means is that occasionally I have to wipe down the fan housings and blades. They get a coating of black powdery crud.
Nice work Paul. Think your last image didn't post right, take a look.
Heavens Eagle
Well-known member
I have been finding that Pucket lately has been kind of short on letting photos post. Sometimes it takes a couple of refreshes to the page. The link is posted correct, just not downloading.
I would have built a huge enclosed paintbooth if I were in Alex's shoes. Enclosed box with negative pressure always pulling all the fumes out. If done right shouldn't even have a need for a mask.
I would have built a huge enclosed paintbooth if I were in Alex's shoes. Enclosed box with negative pressure always pulling all the fumes out. If done right shouldn't even have a need for a mask.
Flyingbabydoc
Well-known member
Bob, the bottles of future are sold here with only 100ml. That is the reason for 4 bottles!
Paul, many thanks for your ideas and for sharing your construct. Indeed it is a good idea - if I get it right I can work through the hand inserts and have all the fumes sucked out on another end. It is really something to consider. The wife and I are planning to build a house and I could insert it into the project. Problem is, Germany is one of the most expensive countries to build in the world, and the additional budget might be a reason for discussion.
I will most certainly keep your idea in mind though. Many thanks again!
Cheers
Alex
Paul, many thanks for your ideas and for sharing your construct. Indeed it is a good idea - if I get it right I can work through the hand inserts and have all the fumes sucked out on another end. It is really something to consider. The wife and I are planning to build a house and I could insert it into the project. Problem is, Germany is one of the most expensive countries to build in the world, and the additional budget might be a reason for discussion.
I will most certainly keep your idea in mind though. Many thanks again!
Cheers
Alex
phantom II
Master at Arms
Alex, I would at least consider having a place for it and building it as you become able .
It will totally change your builds.
Cheers, Christian B)
It will totally change your builds.
Cheers, Christian B)
Dang, I made a joke a long time ago on another website about doing just that and I got 4 emails requesting a bottle. Yet another million dollar idea missed.
Dang, I made a joke a long time ago on another website about doing just that and I got 4 emails requesting a bottle. Yet another million dollar idea missed.
Go figure... :java