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P-51B 1/48 scale

Sherman 18

Master at Arms
I will be doing a 1/48 scale Revell P-51B Mustang in German markings

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research photos
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research drawings
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I'm going to go with OD and yellow for this build. I liked both but feel the OD one will be easier for me at this time.
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I have decals coming so this will be getting worked in :D
 
T9+HK and T9+CK were different aircraft.

T9+HK was a P-51B-15-NA (s/n 43-24825) belonging to 334th FS, 4th FG, 8th AF, coded QP-G with noseart "Jerry". It was captured after making a forced landing near Cambrai on 06 Jun 1944 on a fighter sweep. It was recovered and restored to flying status at Rechlin for testing before being passed on the Zirkus Rosarius for training. It was lost in a flying accident 10 Dec 1944 killing the pilot.

By this time the OD/NG camouflage had been discontinued and aircraft were being delivered in natural metal. Initially it had its US markings and noseart removed adding a yellow tip to its red spinner and nose band and the RLM04 underside. It is likely that it was repainted in the standard Luftwaffe captured aircraft scheme of RLM74 over RLM04 when it was transferred Zirkus Rosarius. It is likely the P-51 without the fin fillet in some of your pictures as it was captured before that modification was introduced in Aug 1944.

T9+CK was a P-51C-5-NT (s/n 42-103458) belonging to 318th FS, 325th FG, 15th AF, coded A45 with noseart "My Lady Margaret/Miss Marilyn". It was captured 09 Dec 1944 while on an F-5E escort mission with 3 other P-51's. All 5 aircraft were lost due to bad weather. The pilot of the P-51C made a wheels down landing in an attempt to recover the pilot of a P-51D that had made a wheels up landing but became stuck in the field. The P-51C was recovered intact while the P-51D was heavily damaged and recovered for spares.

It too would have been delivered in natural metal and initially received only the RLM04 underside painting after removal of its US markings. There is a photo showing the noseart retained for awhile after capture.

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This aircraft also appears to have received the fin fillet modification.

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It was also likely repainted in the RLM74/RLM04 scheme when transferred to Zirkus Rosarius.

Cheers,
Rich
 
I was under the impression that the fin filet was added to the early and was standard after D-15. Didn't know it was added to B/C model P51 because the razor back. I thought when they went to a bubble top they lost some lateral area and they had to add the filet to make it more yaw stable again.
 
The P-51B/C also experienced stability problems after the addition of the 85 gal fuselage tank. The pilot would have to spend the first hour of flight concentrating solely on keeping the aircraft pointed in the right direction. Under the right conditions of speed, AOA, weight and C of G the aircraft could enter into an involuntary snap roll during low speed maneuvers. Many crash reports told of the horizontal stabilizers being torn off when this happened. Until the addition of the fillet, maneuvers were restricted until the external tanks were dropped and the fuselage tank was below 25 gal.

High-speed porpoising caused by the tank led to the fabric elevators being replaced with all metal elevators.

The fillets for the P-51B/C and P-51D were of slightly different design. The P-51B/C fillet terminated farther forward and had a subtle curve to the top edge. The loss of fuselage are on the P-51D magnified the stability problem and led to the new design of the fillet.

The fillets were also added to many RAF Mustang III's.

Cheers,
Rich
 
T9+HK and T9+CK were different aircraft.

T9+HK was a P-51B-15-NA (s/n 43-24825) belonging to 334th FS, 4th FG, 8th AF, coded QP-G with noseart "Jerry". It was captured after making a forced landing near Cambrai on 06 Jun 1944 on a fighter sweep. It was recovered and restored to flying status at Rechlin for testing before being passed on the Zirkus Rosarius for training. It was lost in a flying accident 10 Dec 1944 killing the pilot.

By this time the OD/NG camouflage had been discontinued and aircraft were being delivered in natural metal. Initially it had its US markings and noseart removed adding a yellow tip to its red spinner and nose band and the RLM04 underside. It is likely that it was repainted in the standard Luftwaffe captured aircraft scheme of RLM74 over RLM04 when it was transferred Zirkus Rosarius. It is likely the P-51 without the fin fillet in some of your pictures as it was captured before that modification was introduced in Aug 1944.

T9+CK was a P-51C-5-NT (s/n 42-103458) belonging to 318th FS, 325th FG, 15th AF, coded A45 with noseart "My Lady Margaret/Miss Marilyn". It was captured 09 Dec 1944 while on an F-5E escort mission with 3 other P-51's. All 5 aircraft were lost due to bad weather. The pilot of the P-51C made a wheels down landing in an attempt to recover the pilot of a P-51D that had made a wheels up landing but became stuck in the field. The P-51C was recovered intact while the P-51D was heavily damaged and recovered for spares.

It too would have been delivered in natural metal and initially received only the RLM04 underside painting after removal of its US markings. There is a photo showing the noseart retained for awhile after capture.

Margaret.jpg


This aircraft also appears to have received the fin fillet modification.

T9CK.png


It was also likely repainted in the RLM74/RLM04 scheme when transferred to Zirkus Rosarius.

Cheers,
Rich



Oooops :idonno My mistake , I should have noticed the different call signs . Have to admit at a glance they look alike.

Cheers, Christian B)
 
The P-51B/C also experienced stability problems after the addition of the 85 gal fuselage tank. The pilot would have to spend the first hour of flight concentrating solely on keeping the aircraft pointed in the right direction. Under the right conditions of speed, AOA, weight and C of G the aircraft could enter into an involuntary snap roll during low speed maneuvers. Many crash reports told of the horizontal stabilizers being torn off when this happened. Until the addition of the fillet, maneuvers were restricted until the external tanks were dropped and the fuselage tank was below 25 gal.

High-speed porpoising caused by the tank led to the fabric elevators being replaced with all metal elevators.

The fillets for the P-51B/C and P-51D were of slightly different design. The P-51B/C fillet terminated farther forward and had a subtle curve to the top edge. The loss of fuselage are on the P-51D magnified the stability problem and led to the new design of the fillet.

The fillets were also added to many RAF Mustang III's.

Cheers,
Rich

Didn't know that about the tanks, thanks Rich :drinks
 
The yellow that the Germans put on the captured airplanes is so cool looking! Can't wait to watch this build!

Mike
 
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