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Dad's motorgrader Update 1/18/12

WW II Road Graders.

Well Bob if you have to scratch everything this means more Eye Candy for the rest of us. Looking forward to this. And great pics in this thread. Very cool stuff.
James

Thanks James, It is going to be interesting for me too. I always like to have equipment in my dios that have never been kitted. It makes them unique! Believe me, the only reason it will be built is because of this web site and the most helpful bunch of guys I know of!

I never once dreamed that research material on a road grader would be so difficult to find. I figured I would just type it into google and there it would be. Wrong!!!

This is gonna be fun!

Bob
 
WW II Road Graders.

Dont know if these are of interest.

http://www.jensales.com/Caterpillar-212-Equipment-Operator-Manual-CT-O-212MG1M1_p_68373.html

http://www.jensales.com/Caterpillar-212-Equipment-Operator-Manual-CT-O-212GDR9T_p_68438.html

http://www.jensales.com/Caterpillar-212-Equipment-Operator-Manual-CT-O-212MG1M1_p_68373.html

Yup!

Thanks again James, I just ordered the operators manual. These are better then the originals for my purposes as they are recent printings with clearer photos, illustrations and line drawings.

When this gets here, guess I'm ready to rock 'n Roll! :pilot :snoopy
 
WW II Road Graders.

This a equipment for sale site, but just might have pictures for you.

http://www.machinerytrader.com/
 
WW II Road Graders.

You tube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maI6y9_m22A&feature=player_embedded

Cool Junior,

Now i know what it sounds like!

Does anybody know what a pony motor is? I keep running into that everywhere I search. Is it the starter motor?
 
WW II Road Graders.



James
 
WW II Road Graders.

Found a really old one...........................

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WW II Road Graders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHr5E3HQ8BA

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/general-vintage-tractors/16114-what-pony-motor.html

James

Cool, so it is a 4 cylinder engine that starts the big diesel engine!

Thanks, Bob
 
WW II Road Graders.

I just received an email from Caterpillar. Not as much info as I would have liked, but, enough to go forward on the project.

Bob -

Thank you for your inquiry. My name is Nicole Thaxton and I am the Corporate Archivist for Caterpillar Inc. Your recent inquiry was forwarded to my attention as the Corporate Archives is responsible for collecting and preserving information and materials relating to the history of Caterpillar and its product lines.

Your question about WWII-era motor graders is not as easy to answer as you might have thought, but here are some facts:
- The No. 12, 112 and 212 Motor Graders were all in production through 1941.
- These models were available in both gasoline and diesel versions.
- In 1942, all but 17 of our 52 products were discontinued. The only motor grader to remain in production was the No. 12.
- The engines used in these motor graders were the same engines used in our track-type tractors.
- Our machines were shipped to the military and the military shipped them where they wanted them...we have no way of knowing what machines or in what numbers were used where.
- FYI, Caterpillar did not produce bulldozer blades until after WWII. All bulldozer blades attached to our machines prior to late fall of 1945 were built by other manufacturers.
- I do not have exact production figures for 1942-1945, but during that time span we produced more than 5,500 Diesel No. 12 Motor Graders...compared to 51,000 track-type tractors.
All that aside, it is very probable that older motor graders built in 1941 or earlier were used by the military during and after WWII. This opens the field up to at least 10 additional motor grader models that may have found their way into service during those years.

I'm sorry I could not be more specific, but I hope this information is of some use to you. Have a nice day!

Kind Regards,
Nicole

Nicole Thaxton, Certified Archivist
Corporate Archivist
Caterpillar Inc.
 
WW II Road Graders.

Reading that it sounds like you have an open invitation to apply creative license. I like the line about the engine in the motor grader would be the same as was in the tracked tractor.
 
Re: Dad's motorgrader

OK, back home from the travels for the winter. I started this project on saturday, December 17th. I have gathered more research material than I ever dreamed, much of it thanks to MA members!. I have all the manuals plus about 80 photographs. After contacting the Caterpillar archives manager, I learned that the motor graders did, in fact, share the diesel engines of the dozers. The engine blocks were uniform on both the 4 and 6 cylinder motors with various bores and cubic centimeters common to both vehicles.

I used the 135th Construction WWII dozer kit engine and radiator. I had to section the resin radiator by removing about a quarter inch vertical strip from the center, then gluing both sides together making a narrow radiator grille similar to the grader. The engine block was modified to fit it's new frame and will be detailed later. Many components of the engine are different or located in different places between the grader and dozer.

I had the specs on the grader, length, width and height. I reduced them to 1/35th scale dimensions. From there, it is easy to calculate the dimensions of the various components using percentages on the line drawings and reducing them to 1/35th. I wanted to make sure the "Look" was right, so I doubled the scale dimensions and built a rough 1/17.5 prototype of the basic frame. Good thing I did because it showed me a few areas that I could tell weren't correct. I went back and recomputed my calculations and corrected the mistakes. Here is the 1/17.5th prototype next to the 1/35th version. The prototype is too large in girth and the angles aren't nearly as sharp as they should be.

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The next is a side shot photographed beside a 1/35th Dozer.

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another angle

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All the frame, transmission, engine compartment and cab were fashioned from white plastic sheet in various thicknesses. The seat was modified from a deuce and a half seat from the scrap box.

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The wheels I requisitioned from a Caterpillar toy tractor. They are perfect scale and, although the wheels are wrong, the tires are great and I will scratch them directly over the existing wheels. The front tires, (not shown) are from a 1/32 scale Rolls Royce car kit. Also perfect for this vehicle. I'll have to scratch those wheels as well.

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Here is another shot from a different angle.

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We're gonna have a big Christmas this year. My daughter and her husband are coming, so, I'll have to leave this for a week or so, then get back to it after the holiday!

Here is a rear shot of a Cat Motor Grader #212. As you can see, still have some detailing, but it is on it's way!

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Bob
 
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