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Charlie Still Don't Surf! AH-1G References
- Thread starter Sharkmouth
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Well one looks like a back up gun site! The numeric over alphabet note looks like a key to a cypher or key.
I have a set of masks for the canopies, both outside and inside. The inside parts can be used in conjunction with clear decal paper and if the black ink is a touch translucent, BONUS, as it better replicates marker or grease pen.
Also note that it is on the WSO cabin's front and starboard but not port. WSO enters from the port side so it might rub off...
centaur567
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Like they said, it's probably something to do with the assigned mission. Our guys never did that as far as I know. The teeth on the Fourth Cav. ship are not the original pattern that we used.And don't forget to tint the canopy light blue. Gary S.
centaur567
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This is another neat scheme. Gary S.
Well, patience pays off, here it is (note that the fin tip position light has been removed and the tail boom side position lights scabbed on, note the Zinc Chromate green):
It may also only be on the port side but Special Hobby has decals for the starboard side.
Note, that by the time Virginia Rose II received the kangaroo, the position lights were converted from the tip of the tail to scabbed on mounts on the sides of the tailboom.
Our own Gary, @centaur567, can attest that the Environmental Control System (ECS) was a God Send in the 'Nam weather. This was retrofitted to many Cobras in the field. This explains why Gary stated that the canopies should have a blue tinge (clear canopies being used on new builds in the latter part of '68). Supposedly, going to clear as the tint interfered with night vision and the ECS took care of the shading effect for which the tint was applied.
OKAY, now what? Well, the pre-ECS Cobras had different ducting and this was visible behind the pilot.
Pre-ECS:
ECS for those built with it or retrofitted (5 and 18 are visible but the latter doesn't need changing):
In this photo of AH-1G 68-15197, Viva Santana, we see the blue canopy tinge, the duct behind Charles, and...
that the ECS was retrofitted in the field:
It is retrofitted here as well:
No ECS:
Here is where it gets confusing, AH-1G 69-16437 was built with the ECS (clear canopy is a clue) but has the vent connection at the extreme starboard side even after conversion to AH-1S!
Even more interesting is that she has, as Bettie K, the early ceramic gunner's seat with the armor between the ears!
Clearer in this earlier photo:
So what? SO WHAT? SO WHAT?
I have yet to see the rear wall as the kits all provide. All the 'Nam era Cobras that I chose will need to have that rear wall reworked!
These are the best set of photos (from another Cobra which was upgraded to AH-1S and then back-dated to G):
OKAY, now what? Well, the pre-ECS Cobras had different ducting and this was visible behind the pilot.
Pre-ECS:
ECS for those built with it or retrofitted (5 and 18 are visible but the latter doesn't need changing):
In this photo of AH-1G 68-15197, Viva Santana, we see the blue canopy tinge, the duct behind Charles, and...
that the ECS was retrofitted in the field:
It is retrofitted here as well:
No ECS:
Here is where it gets confusing, AH-1G 69-16437 was built with the ECS (clear canopy is a clue) but has the vent connection at the extreme starboard side even after conversion to AH-1S!
Even more interesting is that she has, as Bettie K, the early ceramic gunner's seat with the armor between the ears!
Clearer in this earlier photo:
So what? SO WHAT? SO WHAT?
I have yet to see the rear wall as the kits all provide. All the 'Nam era Cobras that I chose will need to have that rear wall reworked!
These are the best set of photos (from another Cobra which was upgraded to AH-1S and then back-dated to G):
centaur567
Well-known member
If you buy a bottle of Martini and Rossi Asti Spumati, you'll get all of the quilting needed.
Plus it's relishing. Gary S.
I should have known better than looking at TM illustrations and training videos! I was wondering how the turret weapons could fire 50 degrees downward with those 'blanking plates' when I realize that they probably are on a museum example!
Fortunately, I do have two sets of the Metallic Details turret sets as they will handle all four since each set comes with a pair each of the complete minigun and grenade launcher since they would be seen through the open areas. I will still need to make ejection chutes for them too. Of course, it is easier to fake it in the smaller scale.
And a video where you can see the side doors removed to service the weapons but no blanking plates. Every video of a banking Cobra also doesn't have them plus the crashed Cobras I already posted before.
Fortunately, I do have two sets of the Metallic Details turret sets as they will handle all four since each set comes with a pair each of the complete minigun and grenade launcher since they would be seen through the open areas. I will still need to make ejection chutes for them too. Of course, it is easier to fake it in the smaller scale.
And a video where you can see the side doors removed to service the weapons but no blanking plates. Every video of a banking Cobra also doesn't have them plus the crashed Cobras I already posted before.
Heavens Eagle
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Well, Git-R-Done!
Crazy Bruce is here:
Horribly colorized but nice compilation of Cobra training films
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