British Army Staghound

[paddy]

Inspired by my CTA build of a Chieftain MBT....Here’s a bit of world co-operation for you all then

An Italian made Kit , boxed by Tamiya for the Japanese market. Of an American made armoured car supplied to the British.
Not sure about the finish but I am leaning towards a desert scheme…If i can just prove to myself us Brits ever used them in the Desert !!

It comes with an excellent 50 page colour booklet of a Staghound walkaround and profile. I also have the voyager PE set for this as it was on special

For those of you who don't know this was built for the US Army but was never used by them.(they went for the lighter Greyhound). 2900 were built and taken up by the British and commonwealth countries from 1942/43
This is a mk1 with its 2x 303 machine guns and its 37mm main gun. The Mk2 was equipped with a 3" howitzer and the Mk3 had the complete turret from a Crusader tank fitted with its 75mm gun !!
all staghounds had two 98hp Chevrolet engines giving a top speed of 60mph, a range of 450 miles and a weight of 14t with its 1.25" armour.
This should be fun

 

[reconron]

Not sure about the finish but I am leaning towards a desert scheme…If i can just prove to myself us Brits ever used them in the Desert !!

Too late for the WW2 north-Africa campaign [if that's what you mean],they first saw action in the Italy campaign.

Have fun with this build,Paddy!Sure looks like a nice kit,and has some nice crew members in it. :drinks

Greetings,Ron.

 

[StuG]

Nice kit...Good luck....

 

[paddy]

OK thanks for that Ron Looks like Green then ....yawn! I will save my desert yellow experiments for another day

 

[jknaus]

Here is a Polish Mk 1 in Italy if you want a dessert yellow scheme. England and Canada also used them there.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10068808t3/60/3

I think ours and yours were green by then, but not 100%
These sites might also help.
http://www.staghounds.org.uk/production.aspx
http://www.lancers.org.au/site/Staghound_Armoured_Car.asp
http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/staghound.htm
http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/IL_Armor222.htm
Hope that helps some.
James

 

[paddy]

Wow James !! information overload As much as i would like to bend the rules I do want to keep to British Armour and i think you and Ron are both right in so much as that means Green,. The poles did use green yellow in Italy and maybe the Aussies used a yellow at some point but as a armour Novice i think i need to get this right.....If some tank builder turned up the airfield thread with a P51 in brown/yellow camo with French markings .......well you get the picture
Great inside detail in some of those shots !! Not sure about the "Crew:5" bit thow
Thanks again

 

[paddy]

well this is fun :cheer:
First things first...its become pretty obvious to me i haven't a clue what I am doing here. I now realise why people all but finish armour before they get the paint out, i can see it would be imposable to keep continuity between parts ( camo , weathering) unless the whole lot is done at once. Fortunately as most of this stuff was sprayed in the field or depot there is no point in picking out detail like suspension etc. I read one article that said even lights were sprayed over and if the crew needed them they could just scratch enough paint off to suit their needs !!!
So we are not building a Ferrari F430 here with carbon fibre trim and chrome springs etc. :laugh:
It also seems to me that paint is almost irrelevant as the finish is weathering finish. Unfortunately Tamiya don't do a colour called weathering so again that's a technique i need to invent for myself. Bit like the squaddie sent down to the stores for a can of Tartan paint.
I have ordered some Tamiya weathering sticks, i have some pastels and i am experimenting with maskol and brown rust on welds !!
Altogether this is great fun but the build is now officially an experiment and it could be some time before i turn out anything worthy of these threads here It certainly will not be this old staghound

 

[MrT]

 

[dukwhunter]

I have this kit in my stash , looking forward to see what you do with it !!! Nice job so far !!! B)


best regards
JOEY

 

[reconron]

Before you go to the weathering stage,you might have a look at this,Paddy.:

https://www.modelersalliance.com/forum/weathering-olive-drab

It's not that hard to do,'Big Bob' sure knows what he's talking about,have a look at what other members
could do,using these techniques.


Greetings,Ron.

 

[paddy]

Thanks Ron
I started to look at that article and while i have every respect for Bob if i simply copy what he does it would spoil the fun for me, I know that sounds daft but working out how to do things is what makes this interesting for me.
One of the reasons i am building armour after a life time of aircraft is to find a new challenge. I dont know what else i could do with aircraft that i haven't already done, i have built most of the leading kits and all the Aires detail sets, I've tried all sorts of weathering and paints, Ive done the most complicated rigging i could find on the WnW FE.2b and the most complicated decals i could find on the wings of the DVa...Even had a quick look at helicopters
Finding my own way with armour is great fun, it might not produce great models from the start but hopefully i will get there as i try out ideas. If all else fails i will do it the way that everyone else does
Cheers :drinks

 

[reconron]

I see,...most important thing is having fun,and it seems you do!

on,Paddy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vdJEDja0fW8

Greetings,Ron.

 

[paddy]

Thanks for that Ron

I have decided not use the PE set on this as its become just a test bed for ideas now. One idea that would have worked if i had used different colours was the heavy flaking of paint. I figured that this Staghound had been brought to Italy after serving in the North African campaign so it was given a quick blast over with green that didn't really stick to well so the light brown shows through in patches...trouble is it look like badly done mud splatters in places rather than brown paint....so a lesson learned there
Try to keep a contrast between mud and paint !!
anyway i'm like a kid in a muddy puddle with a stick and a bucket these days..ie: having great fun ...lol

Must get the duster out before taking pictures :laugh:

 

[Bagge]

Good to see that you are having fun building Paddy!
//Mats

 

[jknaus]

Thats what its all about. Having fun.
James

 

[moon puppy]

anyway i'm like a kid in a muddy puddle with a stick and a bucket these days..ie: having great fun ...lol

The conversion is almost complete...

Paddy I'm in the same boat, really enjoy doing the armor stuff cause we can do so much more to them.

 

[paddy]

First attempt at some canvas rolls. Just cloth soaked in coffee and some surplus PE straps from another build.

 

[jknaus]

Looks good. Just a thin flannel type cloth?
James

 

[paddy]

Actually an old pillow case i cut up to clean the car with. The coffee when it dried seems to have highlighted the weave

 

[reconron]

The canvas rolls soaked in coffee look great!

I might try that some day!



Greetings,Ron.