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Question of Curiosity - Airbrushes

I started out with an Aztec A4709. Though its a neat idea with the exchangable nozzles, the trigger is way to light and once you have a spill inside no way to clean it properly. My current weapons o choice are:

Badger 150 ( hardly used anymore) and an IWATA Revolution BCR. But I am seriously eying the Bagder Renegade or the new IWATA NEO. But I also heard that the TAmiya Superfine are supposed to be the cats meeow.

Joe
 
Me, I am an Iwata junkie, I have a HP-AH and a SubMicron that I use for everything except pigments for that I have a POS grex. I started out with a badger in teh 70's, moved up to a Pasche H, then to an
aztec 470 - what a waste that was, then on to the Iwatas.
 
[/quote]Mats, I tell ya, once you go with a gravity feed you'll never go back. The cleanup time alone is enough to make the switch! :woohoo:[/quote]

Gotta agree there...I used to dread airbrushing, until I got an Iwata HP-B, now it's a pleasure.

I have nothing good to say about Aztecs.

Tom
 
I started with Revell !! basic :lol:
revell.jpg


then Sparmax DH-115 .35 tip, side mounted gravity feed, ''excellent down the sights'' view when spraying, temperamental trigger probs though

Badger Anthem 155 (which I love for large area sprays ) tip 41-004 size ?

Latest is Badger Krome that came with two tips and needles .21 and .33


And Badgers have that lovely Made in USA stamp!

The Krome has a needle travel stop adjustment screw with graduated markings and a corresponding line engraved into the handle, to enable the user to set needle travel at a specific limit.

This feature is Brilliant!!

I have to heap full praise on the Badger Company for fully looking after me as the .21 ultra fine spray regulator would not unscrew from the hold down ring, so I could not use the .33 fine spray regulator/tip/needle, even using two sets of pliers wouldn't separate these two, Ken from Badger contacted me after I emailed for advise, who very kindly posted a replacement ring and regulator to me so I could use the .33 setup.
 
Sorry to if I resurrected an too old thread, but I love airbrushes, and I felt I needed to share.
I've been something of a collector, but due to bad times, I sold a lot of airbrushes last year. Sold most of the ones that I didn't use, and that I thought would be easy to replace. So most of the Iwatas, all the Paasche and Badgers, the H&S's and my Efbe had to go.
But I still have a few. ;)
First the Olymposes. They are in my opinion the finest airbrushes made. They have been lingering in and out of production for years, but the last I heard was that they had sold their last airbrush. :(
Anyway...
One MP-200A, a 200B and one 200C. These are Microns, comparable to Iwatas Custom Micron series.
The 200A is a bit special, since it is quite uncommon, and it is the shortest body Micron.
Then there's the HP-series Olymposes. Roughly comparable to Iwatas HP-line.
I have one HP-100B and one 100C. The C is one of my favorite alround airbrushes.
And then there's two 101's (side feeders) and one 102C, which is a trigger action model.

And then for the odd ones. A Rich AB-200, which was my first double action airbrush, 25+ years old, a Richpen 213C that I found brand new at a bargain, and my first Iwata, an Eclipse CS that I bought in California about 15 years ago.

I have owned lots of airbrushes over the years, and found pros and cons with most models and brands. Will probably buy a bunch when I get back into work, but I think I can manage with these for a while. :D

If I can help with any questions on airbrushes, feel free to ask.
Tried to add clickable links to pictures of the airbrushes, but couldn't make it work.
 
I've got a Master Airbrush pistol grip G76 with three different size paint cups. Shoots beautifully I've got a Badger Velocity at work but I prefer the pistol grip with these old football hands.
 
I have a Badger, Pasche H and a Thayer & Chandler...hadn't seen that one listed yet haha.


Tim
 
Cool Thread ,


I have an Aztek A470 ( I know it's th Red-Headed step child of th hobby) that I really Dig & get a lot of milage out of. I also have a Badger Vega 2000 ( a gift ) , Badger 200 Detail , & a Chandler & Thayer Omni 4000 ( a gift ) that I have yet to break out & paint with , but will rectify that shortly ! Of all of these I gotta say that th Aztek is th workhorse , I can get some great lines with it ..... Oh I also have an older Pasche VL that I use to shoot pigments & when ever I need a good spattering of paint :woohoo:

I never knew there was a collectors market for th AB's .... not that I have one of those types .... It's cool Historical Hobby stuff !!
 
Badger 350 S/A for spraying car bodies and Future.

Badger 155 for most one color jobs and base coats.

Badger Renegade Velocity for those times when I have to get up close and personal.

More so than anything else, I have a very precise air pressure regulator.

G
 
I had a lot of problems with my first airbrushes, much because of the siphon feed.
Have you considered buying a cheap double action gravity fed airbrush? In my honest opinion, they are easier to work with than almost anything else.
 
I have a Paache H- my first, I'll buy a Badger next. I like the brush, i think i just overstepped my own skill level trying some things.

Though one great thing about the airbrush is you spray what you mix, nothing is catastrophic- like when you get a bad can of spray paint and it freezes during spaying because of a bad mix in the propellant- rare but a real buzz kill when it happens.
 
Have you considered buying a cheap double action gravity fed airbrush? In my honest opinion, they are easier to work with than almost anything else.

i agree! i wholeheartedly agree but never ever let meinrad froschin* read that statement - he'd get an instant heart attack! :laugh:

* Meinrad Froschin (he really hates gravity feed abs!)
 
:D

Maybe he would need a couple of months in isolation with a gravity feeder, just to reeducate him?
I shudder just by looking at that poor Infinity. It ought to be a law against using a a siphon cup on such an airbrush.;)

Edit: Checked his website, and he makes quite awsome art with that airbrush, though. I wish I was even a tenth that talented.
Marissa Osterlee is scary good as well. Uses a side feed.:)
http://airbrushworkshops.com/marissa.php
http://marissaoosterlee.com/

Seriously, a lot of "artist" and custom car and mural airbrushers like siphon feeders, much because they paint in such large formats. And they usually use thinner paint as well.

But for modellers, double action gravity feeds have their benefits.
 
Yep, me too...I thought airbrushing was a giant pita, until I got a double action gravity feed.

Tom
Iwata HP-B owner
 
I just stumbled across this and thought "OK I put my list down too"

So here it is:

a Revell "dont know" single action , those you screw the bottles in from below - I use it for all kind of basic stuff for bigger areas. Very seldom for scale modeling but for applying base coats on other stuff for airbrush pictures.

a Badger Crescendo 175 double action with the 0.7 nozzle - this one is for applying base coats or clear coats

a Evolution 2 in 1 double action with the 0.5 nozzle - for all kind of bigger jobs and thicker paints

a Badger Sotar 20/20 double action with the 0.25 (or is it a 0.3?) nozzle - for almost anything except the above mentioned

a Richpen 112B double action with a 0.15 nozzle - for all fine detail. This is my oldest one, its about 25 years old now.

well and some bigger ones you use for car painting.

and I've sold 4 last year .... :)

That all began when I started airbrush picture painting about 30+ years ago. I'm very seldom do paint a pic these days, but in the case I still have the guns ready.
 
Yep, me too...I thought airbrushing was a giant pita, until I got a double action gravity feed.

Tom
Iwata HP-B owner

Great airbrush! A lot of modellers pass on the B because of the small cup without realising that there´s benefits from it. The smaller cup makes for a shorter body, nimbler and lighter airbrush.
A friend of mine calls his B "the air pen". Fitting name.
But as always, people must realize there are no perfect, do everthing, general airbrush. Details are best done with fine nozzle small, well balanced airbrushes at low pressure and with properly thinned paint, and large cover is best done by large nozzle airbrushes at high pressure.

I've had three "revelations" in airbrushing during the years. First was reading some article in the late 90's, where the author suggested a technique of always keeping the air on. As long as the airbrush is in your hand, let the air flow. I've read this from other sources a couple of times later as well, and it is sound advice. The thing is that with the air going, you will decrease the risk of tipdry, since the air keeps the needle point clean, and the classic "start spatter" will be completely eliminated. It also reduces the things to keep in mind. A lot of people that has started with single action brushes have a hard time with the "open air first, then the paint, close paint, then the air"-mindset. They want to just release the trigger to stop. Doing that on a double action is inviting disaster. First, while stopping the air before the paint, it usually lets a drop of paint bleed out onto the needle to, or the needle cap. Result, spatter or tip dry. Second, it is one of the primary reasons for broken nozzles. While demo-ing airbrushes at a national event, I had to stop people from doing this. Most of the culprits doing this was either single action or Aztek owners....
With the air going, the only thing to think about is paint or no paint. Reduces the things to think about to the same level as a single action.

My second revelation was understanding paint and paint products. I switched to acrylics from Humbrol enamels in the late 90's, early 00's, and immediatly had even more problems than I had with enamels. My problem with enamels where inconsistent behavior and results, and when I started with acrylics, it continued, but added to the earlier problems where tip dry and to short drying times (orange peel effect).
For years I had been listening to peoples advice on "skimmed milk consistency" and other rules of thumb. After almost giving up on airbrushing, especially acrylics, I talked to a very good modeller here in Sweden about his superb finishes, and he said that he thinned a lot more than generally recommended. His goal was never to get complete cover the first run, but to build up thin layers of paint. Sounds so basic, but today I thin a lot more. Add to that the use of retarder, extender, and flow aids, and I would say that my airbrushing has developed tremendously.

And the third. Backflush and car wax. So simple, and still so effective. I used to tear down my airbrushes every time I had used them, most of the time even between colour changes. Then I started to backflush, and today I strip down my airbrushes maybe once a month, or if I know that it won't be used in a while, before putting it away. And I use silicon free old fashion car wax on every part, even the needles. Works great, and makes cleaning so much easier.

Today I do 90% of my airbrushing directly at my modelling desk. No sheds, no standing on the balcony, no paint booths. Fine nozzle, small cup airbrush, some drops of paint in the airbrush, and of you go.
Only large cover work needs to be brought to the paint booth.


MO is the best of the best in my eyes ...

She's a real magician with the airbrush. First time I saw her work I thought it was retouched photographs.
 
I just stumbled across this and thought "OK I put my list down too"

a Badger Sotar 20/20 double action with the 0.25 (or is it a 0.3?) nozzle - for almost anything except the above mentioned

Best airbrush Badger ever made. Better than the new Renegade Series, in my honest opinion.
 
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