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Neverland Models HMS Victory

Let's take a look inside the box of Neverland Hobby HMS Victory.
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The HMS Victory is the 104 gun ship of the line in the Royal Navy that is still in service after 247 years. She has a rich history that can be easily found from most any source. Check it out.

It's a dinky little 1:700 kit but when you're talking HMS Victory she'll still clock in at 140MM, that's about 5 1/2 inches for you and I.
The price was right, at about 22 bucks from the Squadron booth at the Atlanta show. There's a lot in this box so let's get to it.
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The box is sturdy enough to support the abundance of parts packed in two sealed bags. There's fret of PE, decals and 2 bags of 3d printed parts.

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Instructions are clear and easy to follow.

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The PE Includes a metal base that will stand the ship up proudly, rat lines and other things that I'm sure have terribly nautical names that allude me. The 3d parts look to be related to the officers and commanders quarters. I do not see anything in the instructions regarding crews quarters but maybe we can stick some hammocks down in lower decks.

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One fret is dedicated to the guns and some of the mast.

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Here you can see the decking and frame of the hull. I think a skilled modeler could build this up in a cutaway view that we all loved to see in books years ago.

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We have the various boats that a big ship of the line needs to get around.

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The two hull halves. Very nicely detailed, over stated at first look but you have to take in to account the scale you're looking at here.

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The inner ribs would be visible across the decks if the hull is opened up.


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I can feel but can't see some wood plank detail across the decks, this should paint up nicely with all our wood grain techniques we've picked up over the years.

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And lastly a sheet of sales with all the textures and lines printed. Just follow the numbering guide to place the sails on the mast and yards, this way you don't have to know the difference between a mizzin sail from a job sail...if there's such a thing.

Just looking in the box from the eyes of a average modeler this looks like a great kit. I haven't test fitted anything yet but the models are very crisp with absolutely no flash to found. I find no references on how to rig her out but I know there's many resources online that could guide the modeler to do a fair job of representing the fully rigged HMS Victory.
 
Absolutely Out-Funking-standing review! It wasn't so very long ago that my nautical nomenclature was scantier than it is now.
Refer to Tim A's USS Constitution build for complete Tall Ship rigging. That man knows his business!
I only run enough rigging on my sailing ship models to impress the novice.
 
Only thing I see that is really a bit off is the weird patterning for the copper plates on the lower hull. It is a bit on the too much side there, other wise it looks like a decent kit.
 
Gun port doors/hatches are thick, I'm sure y'all would replace them with precision cut PE with hinges. I would have liked to see the cabin windows be hollow with some PE window panes represented so you can see in side. I guess they intent for it to be opened so how would you properly rig the outer lines?
 
Gun port doors/hatches are thick, I'm sure y'all would replace them with precision cut PE with hinges. I would have liked to see the cabin windows be hollow with some PE window panes represented so you can see in side. I guess they intent for it to be opened so how would you properly rig the outer lines?
There is the "Admiralty Style" model. The Royal Navy and ship designers used them to display features of new designs to get command, financial and political approval. All or part of one side would be left unplanked to show off interior details and fittings. Often they would have no or partial masts so there was no need for rigging. But they could be seen with full rigging but without sails.
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To do a proper Admiralty Model the number number of frames would need to be doubled, HMS Victory had about 30 frames.

A typical gun lid setup. The design of the lid did vary between ships. The lid is made of two layers, the exterior running horizontal and the interior running vertical to match the hull plank thickness and curvature. The largest planks on HMS Victory were 11 inches thick, 16 inches wide and 25 feet long.
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In an earlier post there was question about crew quarters. The three rows of windows at the stern were officer quarters. At the time of Trafalgar, the top row was the Captain Hardy's cabin, the second row was Admiral Nelson's Great Room and the third row was the wardroom for remaining ship's officers. The ordinary sailors lived, fought and died on the gun decks. They were assigned a mess table for meals. When meals were complete the tables were stowed and the hammocks strung. Hence the order "Clear the decks" to stow all gear before an engagement.

Cheers,
RichB
 
Great thanks Bob
Last time i was in RN Portsmouth i went to the historic dockyard and was going to have look round Victory however i was too big to fit in it :rotfThe lower deck is only 5ft high and i am 6ft 4" and couldn't walk about bent double for half an hour
Victory is still commissioned and is the flag ship of the navy's first sea lord :)
Very much like the aircraft of the battle of Britain memorial flight are still listed in the order of battle for the RAF ,in fact the Lancaster is our only heavy bomber on charge still.
what is actually far more interesting is HMS Warrior
The navy's first armoured ship launched in 1860 with 9 inch of teak and 4.5 inch steel hull. You can see Victory in the top of the pic

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The guns on the bow and stern were 110lb and could be slide around on the steel tracks on the deck

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The gun deck is amazing, the gunners would live sleep and eat with their guns hence the tables etc

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Rhino would blow his main fuse here and i doubt we would ever see him again :)
 
A 1/700 scale HMS Warrior (1860) would be 6.514 inches LOA, A scale beam of .998 inches at the widest point. Freeboard isn't listed on Wikipedia
A deck plan would be required. Her 110-pounders are 178mm rifled cannon. Her displacement is 9,137 Long tons.

For you WWII US Navy buffs, HMS Warrior's displacement compares to that of a 10,000 ton US Navy 1921 treaty heavy cruiser. USS Astoria, USS Vincennes, see what I mean? A grand ship, Indeed!

Billings Boats offers a 1:100 scale model kit (45.5 inches long) that ranges in price between USD $500.00 to $750.00.

Once aboard, and having overcome the full-body erection such grand a vessel invokes, I would have a very fine time!
Thanks Paddy!
 
I went on board the Warrior a few years back. A very impressive ship from the Victorian era Royal Navy.

That little Victory model, subject of this thread looks very impressive considering its diminutive size.
Neverland models is a new name to me as a manufacturer and the inclusion of PE ratlines is a rally good thing.

The only other model approaching this standard is the little Airfix Mary Rose but no PE is supplied with that kit. Scale Warship however does PE sets for the Mary Rose that can be bought separately

I would like to see a definitive model in plastic of the CSS Alabama in a larger scale of say 1/350th and for that matter HMS Warrior. Maybe Neverland will come up with the goodies?
 
I went on board the Warrior a few years back. A very impressive ship from the Victorian era Royal Navy.

That little Victory model, subject of this thread looks very impressive considering its diminutive size.
Neverland models is a new name to me as a manufacturer and the inclusion of PE ratlines is a rally good thing.

The only other model approaching this standard is the little Airfix Mary Rose but no PE is supplied with that kit. Scale Warship however does PE sets for the Mary Rose that can be bought separately

I would like to see a definitive model in plastic of the CSS Alabama in a larger scale of say 1/350th and for that matter HMS Warrior. Maybe Neverland will come up with the goodies?
There is a kit of the CSS Alabama. Revell made the kit in 1/96 scale back in the 70's and it was re-released again in 2006. Bigger than 1/350 I know but it is there.
Also I have found I prefer 1/200 of which more and more kits are being made these days. Some are huge (Aircraft carriers) but some are still a reasonable size yet are big enough to add really nice detail. Am waiting for Trumpeter to release the Fletcher class USS Sullivans in a few months. There base Fletcher class model is on pre-order now at Squadron.

The CSS Alabama
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I built a lot of the Revell sailing ships back in the day. I built the Kearsarge which my parents kept on their bookcase till my Mom sold the house and moved out. I never did find out what she did with it. I myself didn't want it, but I guess someone did and got a decent though old build.
 
Thanks for the feedback about the Revell Alabama. It is a very big model besides being inaccurate, as Revell shared the hull mouldings for their Kearsarge kit also. One ship"s hull is 12 feet longer for a start and the Alabama had a retractable propeller !
The only other Alabama kits I have seen are in wood, and also huge.
Maybe 1/200th scale that Heaven's Eagle suggested might be a better scale than 1/350th that I suggested with regard to having a very well detailed model about half the size of that enormous old Revell offering. It would be nice to see a very accurate plastic offering that does not take up half the house.
 
Yeah, back in the day, I wondered about the Alabama kit. Thought it looked a lot like the Kearsarge kit. Really dislike Trumpeter kits as they are notorious for be inaccurate. Have the 1/200 Arizona kit and it is BAD. Then there is the 1/32 (and 1/24) Ju87A Stuka kits and they are the same model just different sizes. Another incorrect offering. Though they did diligence on the 1/200 Titanic it seems so I bought that kit.
 
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