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"Painting with Giovanni: fleshtones"
- Thread starter gioazz
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Re: Painting with Giovanni
This looks like a great opportunity to learn some more about painting figures. Can't wait to see everyone's efforts. I'll try to do something, I may play catchup later. Thanks for posting this Gioazz!
This looks like a great opportunity to learn some more about painting figures. Can't wait to see everyone's efforts. I'll try to do something, I may play catchup later. Thanks for posting this Gioazz!
jknaus
Administrator
Re:Painting with Giovanni
I'm in Giovanni. But I dont have any American troops. I have a ton of Dragon German troops etc, and all the metal figures I've been collecting. Will any of those work or are you doing something specific. Also what blue and red do you use? Is the mixture by guess or by golly or do you have a formula? Thanks in advance.
James
I'm in Giovanni. But I dont have any American troops. I have a ton of Dragon German troops etc, and all the metal figures I've been collecting. Will any of those work or are you doing something specific. Also what blue and red do you use? Is the mixture by guess or by golly or do you have a formula? Thanks in advance.
James
Re:Painting with Giovanni
jknaus wrote:
Ciao James,
Glad to have you on bord.
Going to your questions, any figures you have is good, pick the one you like the most, any scale will be good as well.
I will paint this tanker, which color of the uniform will be OD and khakish color, plus a red scarf and green and leather helmet.
You can pick a figure with similar tones or something completely different and we can paint it togheter, keep in mind that I've on my bench other 3 figures, of which the main colors are RED, DARK BLUE and WHITE so, I can switch to best suit your needs.
As for the blu and red, don't have any particular mix, I just add little tiny bit at the time until I'm happy.
You can easily use a premix deep skintones from Vallejo or Andrea, will be good as well.
Ciao
Giovanni
jknaus wrote:
Ciao James,
Glad to have you on bord.
Going to your questions, any figures you have is good, pick the one you like the most, any scale will be good as well.
I will paint this tanker, which color of the uniform will be OD and khakish color, plus a red scarf and green and leather helmet.
You can pick a figure with similar tones or something completely different and we can paint it togheter, keep in mind that I've on my bench other 3 figures, of which the main colors are RED, DARK BLUE and WHITE so, I can switch to best suit your needs.
As for the blu and red, don't have any particular mix, I just add little tiny bit at the time until I'm happy.
You can easily use a premix deep skintones from Vallejo or Andrea, will be good as well.
Ciao
Giovanni
jknaus
Administrator
Re:Painting with Giovanni
Most of my figures are ancients. I have a Beneito Waterloo
which I was saving for when I got good. Thats about it for red.
Or I have a 75mm Pegaso Models Officer 1st Reg. Light Horse Lancer of Line 1811 in green
that should get here in the next week.
Either of those good?
James
Most of my figures are ancients. I have a Beneito Waterloo
which I was saving for when I got good. Thats about it for red.
Or I have a 75mm Pegaso Models Officer 1st Reg. Light Horse Lancer of Line 1811 in green
that should get here in the next week.
Either of those good?
James
Re:Painting with Giovanni
Hi James,
both of them are good and large scale, therefore easier to detail.
You can eve start with one of the german figure you have, really, anything goes.
Now, start to clean up the piece, put the primer and start to follow the steps!
I'm waiting!
Giovanni
Hi James,
both of them are good and large scale, therefore easier to detail.
You can eve start with one of the german figure you have, really, anything goes.
Now, start to clean up the piece, put the primer and start to follow the steps!
I'm waiting!
Giovanni
Re:Painting with Giovanni
James,
This is excellent, your fleshtone base is great for a nordic type skin colour.
Tonight I'll post the rest of the article, do you have oils colours?
You will need the following:
Ivory black
Raw umber
Burnt Sienna
Naple's tellow deep
Titanium White
violet
red
green or blue
I use Windsor and Newton for all of them except the Naple's yellow which is Maimeri.
Let me know what you got.
Ciao
Giovanni
James,
This is excellent, your fleshtone base is great for a nordic type skin colour.
Tonight I'll post the rest of the article, do you have oils colours?
You will need the following:
Ivory black
Raw umber
Burnt Sienna
Naple's tellow deep
Titanium White
violet
red
green or blue
I use Windsor and Newton for all of them except the Naple's yellow which is Maimeri.
Let me know what you got.
Ciao
Giovanni
Painting with Giovanni STEP 2
Jolly good,
Now is time to start with the second step, oil colours! This topic will be made by 2 posts, but try to resist before you start to paint until the very last end, you need wet oils to be able to perform this technique, for the time being just read it.
First of all I’ll show you the palette I use, well is not really mine, this is from Danilo Cartacci’s book, he’s better than me in taking pictures, but I do exactly what he does.
Colours are clockwise ,from darker to lighter: Ivory Black, Raw Umber, Burnt Sienna, Yellow Naples Deep, Titanium White.
In the middle you’ll find red and violet; the blue on the side, can be any colour you want to paint the eyes (I've actually used green for this figure).
Now mix colours from darker to lighter, starting from Raw Umber, leave the Black aside for the moment.
Done? Now start to mix anticlockwise from Burnt Sienna back to Ivory Black. Last but not least mix the red and the violet with the all lot. Of course use white and black to lighten and darken the “eye” colour.
Easier to see from the picture than to explain it in words!
Now, take a really dark shade (black raw umber mix) from the palette and paint the part under the eyebrows, and under the nose.
Take the almost black shade and outline the upper part of the eye, think like a lady who’s using an eyeliner (if you are a lady is easier!!) under the upper lid edge .
Now, take a light shade (towards the naples yellow/white mix) and paint the upper eyelid.
Great! Is time to paint the eyes and the lower lid. Take the colour you choose, in this case green, make a dot with the dark shade. A little trick, to paint straight eyes: use the mouth’s edges as reference and centre the eyes with those, also DON'T USE WHITE to paint the eyeball, I actually paint the eye straight on the base acrylic color on thefigures up to the 90mm.
Using white keep on lighten the green toward the center, you can even put a small dot with pure white.
To paint the lower lid, using a mid shade mix. You can darken the lower lid shade towards the nose.
Last but not least trace a very fine line on the upper edge of the lower lid with a very light mix, almost white to outline the eyes
Well, I think this will take you busy for quite a while, tomorrow the rest.
Thanks again for following, and please share with me your progress.
Ciao
Giovanni
Jolly good,
Now is time to start with the second step, oil colours! This topic will be made by 2 posts, but try to resist before you start to paint until the very last end, you need wet oils to be able to perform this technique, for the time being just read it.
First of all I’ll show you the palette I use, well is not really mine, this is from Danilo Cartacci’s book, he’s better than me in taking pictures, but I do exactly what he does.
Colours are clockwise ,from darker to lighter: Ivory Black, Raw Umber, Burnt Sienna, Yellow Naples Deep, Titanium White.
In the middle you’ll find red and violet; the blue on the side, can be any colour you want to paint the eyes (I've actually used green for this figure).
Now mix colours from darker to lighter, starting from Raw Umber, leave the Black aside for the moment.
Done? Now start to mix anticlockwise from Burnt Sienna back to Ivory Black. Last but not least mix the red and the violet with the all lot. Of course use white and black to lighten and darken the “eye” colour.
Easier to see from the picture than to explain it in words!
Now, take a really dark shade (black raw umber mix) from the palette and paint the part under the eyebrows, and under the nose.
Take the almost black shade and outline the upper part of the eye, think like a lady who’s using an eyeliner (if you are a lady is easier!!) under the upper lid edge .
Now, take a light shade (towards the naples yellow/white mix) and paint the upper eyelid.
Great! Is time to paint the eyes and the lower lid. Take the colour you choose, in this case green, make a dot with the dark shade. A little trick, to paint straight eyes: use the mouth’s edges as reference and centre the eyes with those, also DON'T USE WHITE to paint the eyeball, I actually paint the eye straight on the base acrylic color on thefigures up to the 90mm.
Using white keep on lighten the green toward the center, you can even put a small dot with pure white.
To paint the lower lid, using a mid shade mix. You can darken the lower lid shade towards the nose.
Last but not least trace a very fine line on the upper edge of the lower lid with a very light mix, almost white to outline the eyes
Well, I think this will take you busy for quite a while, tomorrow the rest.
Thanks again for following, and please share with me your progress.
Ciao
Giovanni
Re: Painting with Giovanni STEP 2
Most interesting. I wish I was ready to attempt this technique. I for one will be coming back to study this often.
Most interesting. I wish I was ready to attempt this technique. I for one will be coming back to study this often.
Brokeneagle
Master at Arms
Re:Painting with Giovanni
B)
Great stuff Giovanni. I haven't got a figure ready at present but will still be following your class.
Really good idea as figures are the hardest part of a dio for me. I am always ready to pick up new and better ways of figure painting.
Ian.
B)
Great stuff Giovanni. I haven't got a figure ready at present but will still be following your class.Really good idea as figures are the hardest part of a dio for me. I am always ready to pick up new and better ways of figure painting.
Ian.
Re:Painting with Giovanni
Hi guys,
I'm glad you are following this thread with interest.
@ Ian and Bob, I hope you can join us soon, and anyway, I'll be always here if you need any help.
@ James, I suppose you could use another dark earth tones, what do you have in house?
I'm going to post the rest of the article in a few minutes.
Ciao
Giovanni
Hi guys,
I'm glad you are following this thread with interest.
@ Ian and Bob, I hope you can join us soon, and anyway, I'll be always here if you need any help.
@ James, I suppose you could use another dark earth tones, what do you have in house?
I'm going to post the rest of the article in a few minutes.
Ciao
Giovanni
Re:Painting with Giovanni
As promised here we are again with the face of this lovely guy.
Let's put some color on the nose; first take a mid shadow tone, similar to the one used for the lower eyelid and paint the side and the bottom of the nose.
Once this is done, add a very light highlight (similar to the one used for the upper lid) on the top of the nose close to the forehead and on the top of the nostrils.
Keep in mind that to keep the highest highlight when using oil, the trick is to deposit the color where you want to have the maximum highlight and blend from there in a downward motion.
Blend the two tones together as shown in the picture above.
Now is time to paint the face, take a mid reddish shadow and place it from the edge of the cheekbone going down 3/4 of the face, then place a mid/light highlight to the upper part of the cheekbone
Time to start the blending making sure that the highlight blends in a downward motion toward the shadow, NOT ALL THE WAY AROUND! Blend until you are happy and add more highlight color if you fancy it, especially where the cheekbone moves to the hears.
Put the same shadow on the temple and the same highlight where the eyebrows are and mix the same way.
We are almost done, the last bit will be on 5 o'clock shadow and final touch up.
To make the 5 o'clock shadow, all you need to do, is to mix same black, Raw Umber and light flesh tone mix and obtain a greysh color.
Place this where the beard should be, so chin, mustache area..... now, take the light flesh tone mix and place it on the upper edge of the upper lip, on top of the chine, on top of the mustache area, but is easier to see the pictures to understand
Once the colours are in place, start the blending, as usual the highlights on a downward motion towards the shadows so you will keep the tone spotless.
Once done, place a mix of violet, red and raw umber on all the upper lip and on the edge of the lower, same really light flesh tone in the center of the lower lip and blend it with the color on the edge.
That's should be your result
Now paint the base color for the helmet (or hair if is the case) with a dark colour and check the contrast in your work, you may now adjust the tones with enforcing highlights or shadows, you may also add a tiny bit of red (really tiny spot) on the cheeks and blend it to have a more reddish flesh tone.
Hope you enjoy it, now is time to paint the rest of the figures, unless you have any requests in particular, about a colour or technique you would like to understand better.
Also let me show the figure with the base colour for the helmet, jacket and scarf, to get a better idea.
And don't forget to share your work!
Ciao
Giovanni
As promised here we are again with the face of this lovely guy.
Let's put some color on the nose; first take a mid shadow tone, similar to the one used for the lower eyelid and paint the side and the bottom of the nose.
Once this is done, add a very light highlight (similar to the one used for the upper lid) on the top of the nose close to the forehead and on the top of the nostrils.
Keep in mind that to keep the highest highlight when using oil, the trick is to deposit the color where you want to have the maximum highlight and blend from there in a downward motion.
Blend the two tones together as shown in the picture above.
Now is time to paint the face, take a mid reddish shadow and place it from the edge of the cheekbone going down 3/4 of the face, then place a mid/light highlight to the upper part of the cheekbone
Time to start the blending making sure that the highlight blends in a downward motion toward the shadow, NOT ALL THE WAY AROUND! Blend until you are happy and add more highlight color if you fancy it, especially where the cheekbone moves to the hears.
Put the same shadow on the temple and the same highlight where the eyebrows are and mix the same way.
We are almost done, the last bit will be on 5 o'clock shadow and final touch up.
To make the 5 o'clock shadow, all you need to do, is to mix same black, Raw Umber and light flesh tone mix and obtain a greysh color.
Place this where the beard should be, so chin, mustache area..... now, take the light flesh tone mix and place it on the upper edge of the upper lip, on top of the chine, on top of the mustache area, but is easier to see the pictures to understand
Once the colours are in place, start the blending, as usual the highlights on a downward motion towards the shadows so you will keep the tone spotless.
Once done, place a mix of violet, red and raw umber on all the upper lip and on the edge of the lower, same really light flesh tone in the center of the lower lip and blend it with the color on the edge.
That's should be your result
Now paint the base color for the helmet (or hair if is the case) with a dark colour and check the contrast in your work, you may now adjust the tones with enforcing highlights or shadows, you may also add a tiny bit of red (really tiny spot) on the cheeks and blend it to have a more reddish flesh tone.
Hope you enjoy it, now is time to paint the rest of the figures, unless you have any requests in particular, about a colour or technique you would like to understand better.
Also let me show the figure with the base colour for the helmet, jacket and scarf, to get a better idea.
And don't forget to share your work!
Ciao
Giovanni
Re:Painting with Giovanni
jknaus wrote:
Hi James,
Thanks for your post.
How to mix color: well I take an old brush, I would say a number 1 or 2 (but really anything goes) and start to push half of each colour outside.
I then start to move each colour into the next with a whirling motion, you will see that by the time you get to the white you have one degrading shade of colour starting from dark ending in whitish.
Don't worry if it doesn't look like the one from Danilo's book, the important thing is to have many different shade that you can pick up.
Maybe if you post your palette, we can check togheter if this is fine.
As for the figure, go large, don't worry anything you like and you think is suitable for you, is fine!
Looking forward to se your progress and always here to help.
Ciao
Giovanni
jknaus wrote:
Hi James,
Thanks for your post.
How to mix color: well I take an old brush, I would say a number 1 or 2 (but really anything goes) and start to push half of each colour outside.
I then start to move each colour into the next with a whirling motion, you will see that by the time you get to the white you have one degrading shade of colour starting from dark ending in whitish.
Don't worry if it doesn't look like the one from Danilo's book, the important thing is to have many different shade that you can pick up.
Maybe if you post your palette, we can check togheter if this is fine.
As for the figure, go large, don't worry anything you like and you think is suitable for you, is fine!
Looking forward to se your progress and always here to help.
Ciao
Giovanni
Re:Painting with Giovanni
Giovanni, the remarkable progress you made painting the face, was that one session of painting?
Giovanni, the remarkable progress you made painting the face, was that one session of painting?
