Laura , two vehicle ID's please ...........

[Cheyenne]

Laura , is this a Pz I or II , ...........

The cowling for the mg is confusing me .
It appears there is a mantelet cover for the mg housing cause I can set the gasket .
But what is confusing me is the round view port below that .

Next is this a Pz III or IV , cause the round mg housing leads me to believe this is a later III or Iv , the stand off armor looks to be an early application though .
The picture caption claims this to be in Africa .

 

[Kreighshoer]

the only thing i can tell for sure is that those are pics of german tanks in africa! :p

in the first pic there is the opening for a main armament missing so it has to be a panzer 1 or 2 turret but what puzzles me is the frontal glacis plate with the pistol port opening!

a command vehicle - that i'm quite sure of! maybe it's a panzerbefehlswagen 3 ausf D1! they were equipped with two mg34 and the main armament was a wooden dummy!

the second vehicle seems to be a panzer 3 in africa! the dude in the background is dressed as if he would be in sunny cyrenaica wellness resort! i wouldn't say that it was a panzer 4 - the dimensions fit more to a panzer 3 than to the 4!

this is a thread where lawrence would be badly needed! lawrence is the real master of vehicle identification! (you read that lazzo?)

 

[Kreighshoer]

after having punked through my spielberger i'm quite sure that the first pic shows a Panzerbefehlswagen III Ausf. H

second pic could be an Ausf. J

 

[Jenny Croft]

I reckon it is one of those with a Dummy main gun and I think Laura is right . I may have a picci of an intact one :laugh:

Jenny :kiss:

 

[Mighty Ninja]

Cheyenne

Laura is correct on both counts. The first is a PzBefWg III Ausf H with the external mantlet blown off. You can see that there is no opening for the main gun as it only had a dummy gun.

Externally, the BefWg differed from a standard Ausf H in that it had a Fu 8 frame antenna on the roof of the engine compartment, a Fu 7 antenna on the right side of the superstructure and a retractable Kurbelmast P (height 9 metres) with a sternatenne fitted to its top. The turret was fixed and bolted to the hull and carried a wooden mock-up of the 3.7cm or 5cm gun. The turret MG34 was the only defensive weapon.

The second photo could be either an Ausf J, L, M or N.

 

[Cheyenne]

Beautiful find Ninja !!!!!