Battle for the Roer triangle museum

[reconron]

Last sunday I went to the Roerdriehoek museum [Battle for the Roer triangle museum] in the little town of MONTFORT,here in the Netherlands.
The museum is dedicated to the battle fought in January 1945 in the area I live in.
Many of you will never heared about this battle,but it is very interresting if your 'into history' to check out.

The museum is situated on a hay loft,so climbing stairs is alas mandatory.I have a knee problem so it was no picnic to get there! :pinch:

Basicly the museum is a collection from one guy,collected over a 15 till 20 years time period.
After asking the owner if it is ok to take pictures,he asked were it is for,so I told him,and got his ok!

So here you are....

Check out the color difference on the 'breadbags'.

The well known 'Frits helmet' painted in a fieldgrey color.

Compare the camera to the camera's used today! :woohoo:

The above rifle is a Russian one,it was used by the Germans during the battle for the roer triangle as a 'Beute Waffe'.

Many British items,since many British troops were involved,my village I live in was liberated by Scottish troops!

The British 'Pixie suit'.

January 1945 was COLD and freezing and there was also some snow.
So the U.K. troops made great use of these snowsuits.

The museum is packed with all kinds of stuff,and the owner can tell you stories about every single item found there.
Guess I stayed there for several hours,...imagin that for a room not greater then an average livingroom. :woohoo:

The German paratroopers almost fought untill the last bullit in the nearby village of St.Joost,
The British had to call in the help of the flametrowing Churchill Crocodil tanks to break the German defence.

Ofcourse you can find some U.S. stuff in the museum.

For the ones with an interest in the history of this battle,there is a great book about it by the authors:Har Gootzen & Kevin conner.

Here is a link to order directly from Erskine hospital.
http://shop.erskine.org.uk/product/the-battle-for-the-roer-triangle



That it for now folks,thanks for watching!

Greetings,Ron.

 

[moon puppy]

Very interesting pictures Ron, thanks for sharing.

I understand you get a connection to the battles that were in your back yard. I've been asked by "non Southerners" why we're still fighting the "Civil War", well most of us are not, we're just honoring the memory because it was in our back yard. Not just the War of Northern Aggression, but the American Revolution as well. There's a Revolutionary war site closer to me than any Civil War sites, it's called Star Fort. Now that the weather has turn cooler...(hopefully) I'll swing down there and get some pictures.

I think that would be a good project for us all. if you know of a historical site close to you, go out and take some pictures and share with us what you learned, what you saw.

 

[Leopard2]

Great pictures. Thanks for sharing. I don't think Iowa has any historical sites besides John Wayne's birthplace and a cpl 1800-something train robberies. But we do have the Gold Star Museum of the Iowa National Guard. I should plan another trip there.

Joe

 

[JSteinman]

:drinks

 

[moon puppy]

Great pictures. Thanks for sharing. I don't think Iowa has any historical sites besides John Wayne's birthplace

Joe

JOHN WAYNE'S BIRTHPLACE! What more do you want?? :woohoo:

 

[AndyFettes]

I think that`s an excellent idea of a MA project Bob

The only battle grounds near me is where the British duffed up some Indians,...does that count ?

 

[Jeeves]

The Saratoga battlefield is just a 5 minute drive from my house...bit there's not much there except for some cannon...though they do do reenactments in the fall...I'll have to look into it!

Fort Ticonderoga is an hour and a half or so north...have to get the family up there at some point since they've never been.

 

[jknaus]

Very cool museum.
James

 

[panzerace007]

Very interesting pictures Ron, thanks for sharing.

I understand you get a connection to the battles that were in your back yard. I've been asked by "non Southerners" why we're still fighting the "Civil War", well most of us are not, we're just honoring the memory because it was in our back yard. Not just the War of Northern Aggression, but the American Revolution as well. There's a Revolutionary war site closer to me than any Civil War sites, it's called Star Fort. Now that the weather has turn cooler...(hopefully) I'll swing down there and get some pictures.

I think that would be a good project for us all. if you know of a historical site close to you, go out and take some pictures and share with us what you learned, what you saw.

RON,

WoW ! Thanx for sharing th pix & the Museum. I agree with Moonie. There's a certain kinship for that battle since it was in your back yard. You can instantly related th those events. Powerful stuff !!

@ ,

I think that's an Awesome Idea ! I live in Richmond V.A. The Revolutionary War, the Civil War ... even th Existence of The English is more or less in My backyard ( James Town 1607 ) ! I would love an excuse to hit the Civil War battlefields & James Town , York Town, Williamsburg, Monticello ! Frontier Campaign, The Seven Pines battle, Cold Harbor & Yellow Tavern really are less than a couple of miles circumference of where I live !! Yellow Tavern is split by a Highway 295 , I didn't find that out until a few years ago.

ANDY , and just a few miles West of Chicago .... The Sioux duffed up some Calvary Soldiers !

:drinks

 

[moon puppy]

I think that`s an excellent idea of a MA project Bob

The only battle grounds near me is where the British duffed up some Indians,...does that count ?

Sure does Andy

Mike that's some rich history up there.

These don't have to be major historical sites like what Mike has. Star Fort which is in Ninety Six SC was a minor battle, only about 1200 guys from both sides.

 

[moon puppy]

Erik I was thinking of the extra work I was going to put on you when I wrote that, So many places you can hit you can't count them. Have fun!! I have ancestors who were stompin' all over that area up there.

 

[David Fettes]

In the first photo the breadbag on the right is a political one, e.g RAD, SA, NSKK or even HJ.

 

[Bagge]

That would be a nice place to visit :woohoo:

 

[panzerace007]

In the first photo the breadbag on the right is a political one, e.g RAD, SA, NSKK or even HJ.

DAVID,

So are you saying that th Average Landser did not have the Cream colored (late into th WAR), but that HJ did. I ask b/c I'm finishing off a Dio that will have some Pz. Grenadiers from th 12SS HJ in there & I was lookin at th Cream one pretty hard as a color that I wanted to add ( as It would add some color to th scene) ?? Thoughts .. suggestions ? What about th one on th Left ? how wide spread was that one .... Would H.J. Grenadiers have carried that one ?

, there is so much around here ! ... Up th Road Fredericksburg, & Bull Run I & II , Over in th Roanoke Valley (Shenandoah Campaign) Tons O' stuff . .... If you're ever Itchin' to go somewhere to see some History .... Hit Me Up a Come on Up ..... I'll also save you a spot on th Bench in th Panzer Shoppe !! :drinks We could both retrace th steps of Our Own Fore Fathers !! :drinks

 

[reconron]

Ok,guys....I see that several of you like to see more historical stuff.

As I live in an area with an rich history,I will try to take now and then some more pictures.
Ofcourse I will try to cover some Belgian and German sites as well,as I live very close to the German border and Belgium is also not that far away from my place.

And if you live yourself near a historical site,please take some pictures as well.
I for one,like to see it.It's always great to have some reference pictures.

Greetings,Ron.