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Some amazing facts
- Thread starter reconron
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Please note that 3 US Army Lt. Generals died in WWII, the others in an aircraft accident on Iceland and the last from enemy artillery on Okinawa.
Regards,
Regards,
Kinda sorta take issue with #8, Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot.
I don't know the ratio of Aces to Average pilots but I'm pretty sure the majority of US fighter pilots were not Aces. I have an elderly friend who was a P47 pilot in the 406th FG. He only had 3 kills and scores of ground kills, he was rotated out of Europe to be a test pilot for the P47N. Obliviously a good technical pilot to get into flight testing but not an Ace either.
BTW, he actually mentioned the #9 issue.
I don't know the ratio of Aces to Average pilots but I'm pretty sure the majority of US fighter pilots were not Aces. I have an elderly friend who was a P47 pilot in the 406th FG. He only had 3 kills and scores of ground kills, he was rotated out of Europe to be a test pilot for the P47N. Obliviously a good technical pilot to get into flight testing but not an Ace either.
BTW, he actually mentioned the #9 issue.
Someone needs to explain this one.
Most members of the Waffen SS were not German.
Most members of the Waffen SS were not German.
AndyFettes
Master at Arms
Suffice to say that the defence of Berlin 1945 was undertaken by such foreign troops French Dutch Scandinavians etc etc who unable to return home fought to the bitter end those that survived were probably terminated or died in captivity in Russia after the war
I disagree with point 1
The 2nd WW started the day that shots were fired at Danzig`s Westterplatte light house anything else before then was not considered WW2 otherwise you`d have to include the Spanish civil war in that too which finished in April 1939
I dont consider the second sino-jap war to be included within that but I know that historians try to
I just watched Valkyrie on TV what a great movie
I disagree with point 1
The 2nd WW started the day that shots were fired at Danzig`s Westterplatte light house anything else before then was not considered WW2 otherwise you`d have to include the Spanish civil war in that too which finished in April 1939
I dont consider the second sino-jap war to be included within that but I know that historians try to
I just watched Valkyrie on TV what a great movie
reconron
Active member
Joe,you might be right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKONsGvrEWw&feature=player_detailpage
:hmmm
Number 12 is my favourite one.....
Greetings,Ron.
Kreighshoer
Active member
while pre war and early war regulations called for 'true' germanic origin, substantial losses led to the need of any personnel they could lay their hands on, thus 'volksdeutsche' were drafted and/or accepted as volunteers. those 'volksdeutsche' are descendants of germans who emigrated to nowadays hungary, bulgaria, romania, ukraine etc. in the 17./18. century.
that was badly needed to fill the ranks again!
the european volunteers from several different countries weren't actually members of the ss itself but enlisted to the waffen-ss branch of the ss.
if you look at ww2 photos you surely have noticed that most of the volunteer divisions didn't sport sig/sowilo on the right collar tab but different insignias - e.g. 7th division 'prinz eugen' sported 'othala', 'nordland' a round svastika, 'handzar' a scimitar and so on, and so on ...
5. ss panzerdivision wiking was an exemption - this division consisted of mainly northern volunteers but sported sig/sowilo ...
like stated - most of the volunteer divisions, not all! in general, only those who weren't germanic didn't sport sig/sowilo, all others received division specific insignias ... and they were a lot!
if you look at pics of the commander of 7th division 'prinz eugen' - artur phleps you can see that he sports the two sigrunes on the left side of his uniform jacket, showing that he actually was member of the ss and had the right to sport sig/sowilo.
with german manpower declining, the longer the war got, there simply weren't enough left to keep up the division strengths and the regulations had to be softened to maintain functional units in the field.
'volksdeutsche' not fulfilling the minimum requirements of 178cm heigth, aryan certificate back to 1750, normal sight etc were drafted into the lssah - much to the dismay of lssah veterans ...
a complete list of all the waffen-ss units can be found here
Sherman 18
Master at Arms
I like #16
